Re: Pokemon game discussion

by Hytheter Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:29 pm

OverlordJ wrote:
Besides that, another option I like to use is Ralts and it's evolutions (not counting Gallade) though I am not sure how Trace would interact with horde battles.

Then again, Ralts and it's evolutions learn Hypnosis, which makes them doubly useful for Catching wild Pokemons.

Lastly, I'd really suggest trying to get a mon with Sweet Scent, which supposedly makes horde battles more likely in this gen.

Maybe a Amoonguss with Sweet Scent and Spore?

Trace is excellent for Friend Safari. Hordes not so much.

Sweet Scent actually guarantees a horde. Otherwise finding my zubat would have taken forever. I had to wade through enough Wismur hordes already. Though I did find a shiny one so I guess that's kinda cool?

d_what wrote:and sadly Ground/Flying is NOT good coverage.

Whoa whoa whoa hang on
Ground/Flying is excellent coverage. Everything that resists Flying is hit SE by Ground and vice versa, it's only flyers and levitators that can resist the pair.
In fact, according to this it hits more type combinations super effectively than almost any other attack type pair (only Ground/Ice is better), and comes fourth for hitting things for at least neutral.
Of course, that chart uses type combos that don't exist and fails to account for abilities, but it's definitely a decent indicator.

As for Moxie, it is very situational. I only mentioned it because it is a nice boost when the cards fall that way.

by phantasmalDexterity Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:30 pm

OJ
You're evil

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by OverlordJ Mon Oct 21, 2013 7:45 pm

phantasmalDexterity wrote:OJ
You're evil

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Lawful Evil all the way~ Twisted Evil

Oh, by the way~

by phantasmalDexterity Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:49 pm

hahaha
Espurr is the greatest

Neutral good all the way~

by OverlordJ Mon Oct 21, 2013 8:54 pm

Whaaaat? Neutral Good?

Sheesh, well, I guess at least you're not Chaotic...

by Captain Mon Oct 21, 2013 10:12 pm

So I just did a test and apparently I'm Neutral Good too, yay!

by invisibleTerrarium Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:07 am

Chaotic neutral wheeeeee

by phantasmalDexterity Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:39 am

We would make a terrific team; me and captain would run around and except every quest that people throw at us (even the ones where you have to find the chickens (especially the ones where you have to find the chickens)) much to the dismay of OJ, OJ would make sure we always get a reward and iT, well, iT would just be there cause why the hell not.

by **Hanky Panky** Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:16 am

I feel like we fall into this conversation about alignment every few weeks

by OverlordJ Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:52 pm

I frown at all of you!

Neutral good? Chaotic Neutral?

Sheesh, I can't be seen with you people in public, you're a danger to my good bad reputation.

:mspaORISIT:

by phantasmalDexterity Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:28 pm

pfffft
like you have a choice
:definetlymspadotdotdotNOT:

I legit think that LE and NG is a workable combination, with some really dynamic and intriguing interactions.

Hanky Panky wrote:I feel like we fall into this conversation about alignment every few weeks

I rate a community by how quickly and often it returns to the same topic.

by **Hanky Panky** Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:28 pm

I'm true neutral, so we can still continue our flushed quadrant romance~

by OverlordJ Tue Oct 22, 2013 4:40 pm

True Neutral is fine. And I am okay with Good beings, after all, I'm neither a villain nor an asshole.

But I do not like chaotic people. To be fair, Chaotic neutral are probably the ones that are the least "bad" but that's still not something I like.

But yeah, I can get along with Neutral Good people, though I'd definitely prefer Lawful Good if possible.

by **Hanky Panky** Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:20 pm

by **Gelatino** Tue Oct 22, 2013 6:32 pm

i'm super neutral

by OverlordJ Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:08 pm

So, true neutral for you, too?

Why are there so few evil people?

by Spark Eletran Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:09 pm

what alignment am i i dont know i cant judge myself

prolly not something id like though

by **Gelatino** Tue Oct 22, 2013 10:06 pm

wait, super neutral is a real rank? awesome, sign me up for mega neutral while you're at it

by Hytheter Tue Oct 22, 2013 11:05 pm

I think I sit somewhere between Neutral Good and Chaotic Neutral.

by invisibleTerrarium Wed Oct 23, 2013 12:31 am

Back on topic...
SOME JAPANESE PASSERBY RANDOMLY ASKED FOR A TRADE SO I SAID YES AND LOOK WHAT HE FUCKING GAVE ME

Spoiler:

by OverlordJ Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:58 am

There are no ranks, there are alignment.

There is how much you care about Law (Lawful, Neutral, Chaotic)

And there is how much you care about Moral (Good, Neutral, Evil)

And if you are Neutral on both, you're called "True Neutral" because Neutral Neutral sounds stupid.

The alignments:

P.S.: There are quite a few popular tests you can take to find out your alignemt but I'd suggest clicking on this link, if you giggle, like I did, well, you might be evil.

by phantasmalDexterity Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:23 am

OverlordJ wrote:Why are there so few evil people?

The internet is full with Chaotic Evil people. They are called trolls.
:V

Espurr is still the greatest.

Ho..hold on. You mean to tell me that whether your Meowstic is female or male actually MATTERS????

by OverlordJ Wed Oct 23, 2013 5:48 am

Not all Chaotic Evil people have to be dicks, either.

In fact, a good troll can't be chaotic, they'd have to be neutral at least. Because Chaotic peoples are against the rules and a good troll tries to make OTHERS break the rules while technically not breaking them himself, thus causing trouble for others. That's certainly evil but NOT chaotic.

by phantasmalDexterity Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:18 am

OverlordJ wrote:they'd have to be neutral at least

Are you implying that trolls could be Lawful? Because that's certainly impossible. Lawful would never disrupt order, not even for others.

OverlordJ wrote:Not all Chaotic Evil people have to be dicks, either.

In fact, a good troll can't be chaotic, they'd have to be neutral at least. Because Chaotic peoples are against the rules and a good troll tries to make OTHERS break the rules while technically not breaking them himself, thus causing trouble for others. That's certainly evil but NOT chaotic.

Very few troll do what you described, actually. I know only one person who would fit that description and I've certainly been around a lot of places. 83 out of 100 trolls only gets to the "FIRST POST LOL" part of the trolling to begin with.
But you're right, some trolls are more neutral than chaotic. However, there's something important we shouldn't forget: D&D is a horrible system when a person is three dimensional, and it's only useful to create a rough canvas which upon you can build your character. As soon as you start thinking about it too deeply, it falls apart.

Troll:

by OverlordJ Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:50 am

Well, we're talking about different kinds of trolls then.

I am obviously talking about those who have crafted the act of causing other people to give in to their anger and break the rules into an art.

I admit, most, if not all people, who call themself trolls these days do NOT deserve to be even compared to these people.

That said, I disagree. A Lawful person, especially an Evil one, can indeed use the tactic of tricking other people into breaking the law as an efficient tool to combat them. That is not an unlawful act, as you purposly do it in order to get the other person into trouble.

I don't know if you have ever played Morrowind.
A strategy that is awefully similar to what I'm trying to describe here is detailed under the spoiler.

How to "troll" NPCs in Morrowind:

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