Pokemon news discussion: USE SPOILER TAGS WHEN APPROPRIATE

Don't forget guys, there's a general discussion thread, and a news discussion thread and on that note:

I hope Bunnerer or whatever it's called evolves into something I like.CI could see myself using it. And Check Pouch nearly sounds like a good ability? Unfortunately, berry based abilities and moves deprive the user of a standard item so they'd nearly have to be OP to be worth using. I'm thinking of ways this one could work...

D_What, I must be weird then, because I love change. I am pretty much BUILT on change. I can never stick to one thing ever, I am always changing my mind. Change is in nature, it's good. Maybe I'm just convincing myself here? Idk. But I do know that when it comes to Pokemon, I am open to almost anything.

Bunnelby is cool, I'm definitely hoping and expecting a Normal/Ground evo from it.

Dedenne is adorable, and Fairy is cool! If it evolves (I have a funny feeling that it just might, I may be wrong though) I may consider it for my team. I also don't see how it's like Raichu, it looks about as much like Raichu as Swalot does to Muk.

Skiddo is pretty adorable, and jumping over ledges is WELL cool. There is another Skiddo in the background of that screenie btw, so I'm reckoning jumping over ledges will be pretty much available to everyone, not just those with a riding Pokemon in their team!

I can deal with change, but it takes me a little while to adjust. Unless Bunnelby evolves into something amazing, I don't think I'm going to pick one up to train (Pokédex completion is a different story).

hey CC... What do you think about... 'Change'??
But srsly though except for maybe when you thought that Blaziken and Excadrill weren't OP (they totes are trufax) I think I've basically always agreed with everything you've ever said ever? And actually my initial reaction to mega was 100% knee jerk. There was no thought involved in disliking it at all, I was just automatically predisposed to do so.

Also I'm thinking there won't be anything for changing IVs this gen... Probably still an improved way of checking them though.

Oh and seriously guys: do you think we'll get any actual new evolutions this gen? Doesn't adding a bunch of mega evos kind of defeat the purpose? We already know next month's corocoro will have more... Well, and new pokemon. But I figured they'd do starter stuff before doing evolved older pokemon. (Evolved bisharp plz... Mebbe gender differed evolutions too)

My first reaction to seeing them literally was "Oooooooh, so THAT'S what the Mewtwo form is. Makes sens-OMFG BLAZIKEN YOU BADASS". Followed shortly after by "OMG LUCARIO YOU BADASS."

I do kinda want to see some prevos and evos this gen, but with MegaEvolutions, I just can't see them as all that likely, which does sadden me a little. I do hope that MehaEvos aren't counted as separate Pokemon by the Pokedex but as more of a Form. Not a traditionall form but like in Blaziken's entry there will be a "Mega Evolution" tab.

My first reaction to megas was "MAWILE EVOLUTION YES" because mawile is great, immediately followed by "AMPHAROS YOU ARE NOT AN EIGHTEENTH-CENTURY CLASSICAL MUSICIAN."

So when is Oorotto going to be officially revealed, anyways? Surely Game Freak must realize that people know about it by now.

So my first reactions regarding the Megaevolutions was that they totally sucked. They didn't seem to be any different than regular evolutions, creating new pokemon named just like old ones with "Mega" plastered before their names was just plain horrible and most of the designs looked just like the old ones with a bunch of extra details added.
Learning more about how they worked made me much more positive though. Being an in-battle thing means there's actually a reason to differentate them from normal evolutions (and it means we won't actually have an actual Pokemon species named MegaBlaziken). The Mega evolutions needing to be visibly more powerful while still being recognisable as the same Pokemon means the designs suddenly make alot more sense. I'm particularly intrigued by what the "additional conditions" are.

My biggest beef with this right now is that this kind of thing was more or less covered by the Formes already. That and the names. Seriously, MegaMewtwo?, Lucarionite?

I'm pretty sure though that my, and everyone else's, concerns about this feature will evaporate as soon as Gamefreak announces MegaMeganium (pretty please?).

Also, check out the official sites' description of the Megaevolutions, it's absolutely hysterical.

I'm not gonna make a judgment on whether i like mega pokemon or not until i actually get to use them

One of my friends speculates that some Pokemon named Eviol is going to be in sixth gen
Because if we have Blazikenite, where does that leave us with Eviolite...?

Gelatino wrote:I'm not gonna make a judgment on whether i like mega pokemon or not until i actually get to use them

A reasonable position to take.

the link in druple's post led me to check out the official site again, and BOY am i excited for super training.
if this is anywhere near as good as what i'm being teased with, i can safely say i'm going to start EV training. i think it's awesome that they're doing all these cool things that appeal to both casual and competitive players.

invisibleTerrarium wrote:My first reaction to megas was "MAWILE EVOLUTION YES" because mawile is great, immediately followed by "AMPHAROS YOU ARE NOT AN EIGHTEENTH-CENTURY CLASSICAL MUSICIAN."

the long lost 21st of js bachs children mega ampharos bach
yes he had an affair with a sheep in a thunderstorm thats how we get him

I was thinking Beethoven but Bach works too I guess

Super training sounds pretty efficient and neat, actually. Except that I'm foreseeing myself getting hopelessly stuck as I try to EV train all of my party Pokemon in-game, all at once.

invisibleTerrarium wrote:I was thinking Beethoven but Bach works too I guess

beethoven was more 19th century than 18th century he was both but he wrote more later
but it doesnt matter that much when we get an ampharos in a silly wig

look mega kangaskhan

guess they sort of did what everybody wanted in a way

also that ability is cool

Well then. That Ability is definitely a potential game-breaker.

"Battles using Mega Evolutions" is definitely gonna be its own tier competitively. And there's really just NO way they'll be allowed on random matchups / tournaments, so I'm fine with it being gamebreaking.

Cool and the regular one doesn't even evolve! It's like this whole time the baby had untapped potential. Really loving this.

I hope the stat changes are miniscule to non-existent though.

Assuming that the ability does allow two consecutive and identical attacks, then yes it is officially OP. And then how would it work with status or set up moves? To be honest though there's a lot of ways it could be fixed to be fair and balanced, e.g stop the ability at half health, limit damage output e.g earthquake and surf in double battles, every second move having half based power, etc. Because Kangaskhan's stats aren't actually bad (and will likely improve) and gets a lot of good moves (Inc. Priority) I can't imagine this as having no caveats. I mean, that's a swords dance by default and a doubler to all setups! It'd be broken in Ubers! Also there might be an inbuilt limit via mega mechanics alone, e.g Mega Evos only activating after all of your Pokemon have fainted or something, but that's not really a help. And in any case I still see MLucario as being *manageable* and the others being completely fine. Excluding the obvious of course.

Especially Ampharos. Outrage isn't gonna cut it, since it's a special attacker, and how's it gonna learn Draco Meteor if it's only a Dragon type in battle? Rotom forme mechanics?

I think it's probably cause it's japanese name "Denryu", electric current, can also be read as "electric dragon" or something like that.