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Post by phantasmalDexterity Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:45 pm

Double post cause exited.
Guys, guys, guys. look at Sidney's arm.
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Do you think that could be a Megastone?????
It looks suspiciously like one. And his old design didn't have any jewelries.
The only thing that makes me doubtful is that I can't see anything that looks like a MS on Phoebe. But maybe she's not getting one since she gets a Dusknoir?
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Post by d_what Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:58 pm

Well, she's hardly wearing anything. But it could be an earring, a toe ring, a clasp, anything that we can't see.

And as much as I hate to admit it... it really does look like one. There are two blurry vertical lines that look pretty similar to the DNA symbol... Hmhmhmhmmm.

Thing is. 

I don't want a Mega Dusknoir??
Mega Shiftry would be alright?? But he already gets an Absol???
And that leaves Glacia and Drake??
Like... Mega Glalie? Mega Walrein?
And the dreaded Mega Salamence? (please no GF it'll be a terrible thing to have before Steven, megaGross will be lame in comparison)

Alternatively. We can deduce that Siebold has a mega Blastoise if only from the Anime special; why introduce him at all unless there was some vestige of truth in him? We also know that teams of E4 and gym leaders can change post-game, and that they sometimes become rebattleable outside of their respective areas. So. What if... All the E4 DO have Mega Stones, and merely don't use them until Post game? This makes a lot of sense flavour-wise, and gives them a much broader and more impressive range of Pokemon. (Phoebe and Glacia can't BOTH use Frosslass.) I would definitely say this applies to the Kalos E4 too; I didn't expect them to use Megas after it was clear next to nobody was; but I do during the remake/next game because by then it should become a standard (plus sequels are typically slightly harder anyway).
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Post by OverlordJ Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:52 pm

That is a pretty grest idea, like, in the post game, Steven Stone (was that his english or his german name, I need to look that up) gives them all megastones, that could fit nicely, hmm...
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Post by Spark Eletran Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:36 pm

Ye he's Steven Stone in the post-game
And I seriously like the idea of Steven Stone being responsible in a way for the predictable mainplace status of the Megastones

though
this does raise the question
wHAT IS GOING ON WITH THE TIMELINE NOW
There were some pretty clear RSE references in Gen 4 and 5, including even stuff about Team Magma and Aqua which is tied to the game's plot no matter what
And XY have some pretty clear references to Gen 4 and 5 stuff
Previously the most agreed-upon thing was Gen 1 and 3 >3 years> Gen 2 and 4 >long time> BW >2 years> BW2 >some time> XY
But now this'd put Gen 3 up next to X and Y
Which in turn moves Gen 4 and BW(2) as well
So...
I guess the best way to make this work is
Gen 1 >3 years> Gen 2 >some time> XY >some time> Gen 3 >some time> Gen 4 >long time?> BW >2 years> BW2
because clearly the timeline of Pokémon is the most important subject

EDIT: wait fuck
xy has references to plasma
tHIS IS LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE
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Post by phantasmalDexterity Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:58 pm

In fact, back in May, the day ORAS was announced, Toshinobu Matsumiya (Key member of Game Freak) confirmed that the official timeline is this:
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ORAS Hoenn having Megastones is exactly the same situation as Eggs were back in Gen 3. Hoenn had eggs 3 years before they were suddenly discovered by Elm. mspa
Or that there were 151 pokemon IN THE WORLD in Gen I.
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Post by OverlordJ Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:19 pm

That makes sort of sense, think about it, if Steven Stone discovers the Megastones, it must have been long before X and Y and it makes sense that most people in Kalos don't know about something that has been discovered far away. Heck, it's more weird that they have a huge tower about something that supposedly almost noone knows about.
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Post by d_what Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:46 pm

Hmmm. So I suppose we can deduce that red won't be in this game; he's busy. And having the PWT would be really weird.

Eh. Let's just roll with it and hope ORAS has more cool surprises. (3D dive please)
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Post by OverlordJ Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:53 pm

Remind me, what does PWT stand for?
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Post by phantasmalDexterity Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:22 pm

Pokemon World Tournament.
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Post by Spark Eletran Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:40 pm

Oooh...
That's. Actually really interesting.

The fan theories were mostly right then! Only X and Y takes place at the same time as BW2.
In that case... I'm betting Z or whatever is gonna be after XY then, which does mean we could have another World Tournament by then.
The fact Brendan and May are now canonically one of the first people to use Megastones is weird to think about though.
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Post by Captain Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:45 pm

If Z comes after XY, then idk, but I feel like another region if a definitely more likely prospect. I can't remember my reasoning now though. Damn, I literally had it like two seconds ago.
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Post by cephalopodAscendant Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:46 pm

I really doubt Z's going to be either a sequel or a new region. And honestly, X and Y could use the improvement.
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Post by phantasmalDexterity Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:03 pm

inb4 Charizard Z mspa
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Post by Spark Eletran Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:37 pm

Capn
have u ever thought
about
it being both 80

It could be another region and also take place after XY :O

Also the thing that really makes me think it's gonna be a sequel/two versions for a new region is the fact we have two secret signature moves for Zygarde. That's like, the dealbreaker. I can't see both being in the same game.
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Post by invisibleTerrarium Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:21 pm

Sakurai-san wrote:Oh, by the way! I'd like to reveal a new challenger. Instead of doing the unveiling on something like a Nintendo Direct, we're going to live-stream the reveal on the official website on Monday, July 14, at 7:00 AM US Pacific Time (4:00 PM European Central Time). Looks like we're nearing the bottom of the stash of new challenger videos that we've made... Like always, we put a lot of effort into it, so I hope you'll enjoy watching it live.

Oh dang. This is going to be big.
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Post by Spark Eletran Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:28 am

monolith soft retweeted that.
it's gonna be shulk.
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Post by Captain Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:41 am

Mega Diancie has Magic Bounce.

Plus next Corocoro is gonna be a "Mega Evolution Scoop". IIRC that year's August Corocoro was that too! So we're getting a bunch more contest info AND a bunch more Megas? Sounds like a good issue.

And yeah, the Smash Bros thingie looks awesome too.
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Post by d_what Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:53 am

It's not gonna be shulk.

It'll be Mr.Game and watch set in the monolith soft universe to get everyone's hopes up.

And THEN it'll be Shulk.

Go on, tell me that's not the kind of thing they'd do. (Charizard... Greninja!)
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Post by Hanky Panky Sat Jul 12, 2014 2:15 pm

it would be really cool to have a whole post-game region a la sevii islands or something.

just... something with challenge and time to pad out post e4 shenanigans. hell, make distro items that unlock campaigns that end with catching shit like darkrai and shaymin and mega stones and shit.
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Post by muffinz Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:28 pm

mannn, the east coast is like three hours ahead of the west, right? there's no way i'm gonna be able to get up at 10:00 for this. which is a shame since i was kind of hoping that maybe one of these days i'd get to actually watch a reveal instead of finding out about it second-hand.

if shulk gets in i am going to squeal with delight so loudly you have no idea
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Post by d_what Sat Jul 12, 2014 4:46 pm

Yeah Shulk is a lot more interesting than, say, Chrom. Though you'd wonder why Isaac isn't a thing?

I still wish the wonderful 101 had had some representation since Bayonetta is an outlier chance (not being particularly appropriate for the theme, though, snake...) but alas we already know they won't. They were shown as trophies a while ago.
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Post by invisibleTerrarium Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:11 pm

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I GOT A FUCKIN DIANCIE
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Post by cephalopodAscendant Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:12 pm

How the hell did you pull that off? And your photo's upside-down, FYI.
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Post by Spark Eletran Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:13 pm

the wonderful 101 could get in as assist trophies, but not characters. plus itd be really awkward to make them a character considering the size of everything in that game anyways so
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Post by invisibleTerrarium Sat Jul 12, 2014 6:24 pm

cephalopodAscendant wrote:How the hell did you pull that off? And your photo's upside-down, FYI.

My friend is one of the giveaway people on showdown. He cloned like a hundred of em and gave me one for free because That's What Bros Do. I'm planning on going on the battle spot with it and scaring the shit out of people hehehe
If anyone want experience battling one you can challenge me bc im sure theyre going to be all over the place once they're released

Also what the fuck whenever i use the image hoster on this site they always come out upside down why does this keep happening to me???
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