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Post by Hanky Panky Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:00 pm

I dunno, cause if it looks sludgy it's usually poison.
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Post by cephalopodAscendant Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:01 pm

Well, for Fairy, most of the theorizing is based on what's in the Fairy Egg Group (yes, Froslass is in that group). It's similar with Dragon, but there's a lot more "it looks vaguely reptilian, so it must be a Dragon" going on. Speaking of which, when are we going to get that definitive list of retconned Fairy-types? I realize we may have to wait until Pokémon Bank is released, but I'm hoping Game Freak will go ahead and give us the list themselves once the games are officially released.
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Post by invisibleTerrarium Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:43 pm

WAIT ITS POISON
YESSSSSS
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Post by OverlordJ Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:47 pm

It seems like noone bothered to read my answer to D_What about WHY I'm upset about the typing.
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Post by Dregadude Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:56 pm

D: I didn't even notice it! Sorry OJ!

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Post by cephalopodAscendant Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:57 pm

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Post by Hanky Panky Sun Oct 06, 2013 4:58 pm

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Post by Spark Eletran Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:00 pm

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Post by OverlordJ Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:00 pm

Addition to what cA said:

Since apparently so many missed it:

invisibleTerrarium wrote:
previously seen kalos pokemon evolution:
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Post by Hanky Panky Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:16 pm

yeah i did miss it and wow that's pretty shitty, to be honest.
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Post by OverlordJ Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:20 pm

Exactly Mad 
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Post by Dregadude Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:36 pm

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Post by OverlordJ Sun Oct 06, 2013 5:39 pm

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Post by Spark Eletran Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:34 pm

itsa leak time with uncle spark or somethin

sylveon evolution method + stats:
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Post by OverlordJ Sun Oct 06, 2013 8:41 pm

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Post by muffinz Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:47 am

hey xaber
you're still our resident statistician right
figure out svyleon go go go
same as the slyveon pic up there but small enough to fit on your screen:
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Post by d_what Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:03 am

Hey OJ. Don't worry about it. Apparently the pokemon you've pegged outclassed has every chance of being pretty strong. something to do with how its ability works I think combined with its typing and stat spread. Whereas the other one has some rather meh stats.
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Post by Xaber Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:32 am

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Post by OverlordJ Mon Oct 07, 2013 9:00 am

d_what wrote:Hey OJ. Don't worry about it. Apparently the pokemon you've pegged outclassed has every chance of being pretty strong. something to do with how its ability works I think combined with its typing and stat spread. Whereas the other one has some rather meh stats.
I'm pretty sure we don't know how it's ability works yet and if it works like I (And others) think it does then it's a pretty weak ability.
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Post by cephalopodAscendant Mon Oct 07, 2013 12:37 pm

So I think I've got my desired team figured out. It's in spoilers because there are leaked Pokémon in there.
Probable team:
I've got it so I have pretty good type coverage. Now let's hope everything gets a nice and diverse movepool.
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Post by muffinz Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:37 pm

new move:
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Post by Spark Eletran Mon Oct 07, 2013 2:50 pm

new move²:
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Post by d_what Mon Oct 07, 2013 3:01 pm

Not a spoiler because boring:

Moonblast, sylveon's move, is a special 95 bp 100 accuracy move that has a 10% chance to lower sp.atk. and here was I worried that fairies would be super strong. >Neutral
Meanwhile, the closest fairy TM we have is a special 80 base move with no effects. So presumably Moon Blast gets limited distribution. I hope it does.

(Expln: fairy could very well be the god type unless either a) most fairies are shitty, and this could well be the case, or b) they all get poor moves to make use of it. Waiting on Child's Play or whatever it is before I can make physical judgements. Loool what of Mawile didn't get any physical fairy move >Very Happy heheheh.)
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Post by Dregadude Mon Oct 07, 2013 4:55 pm

I'm mostly worried about a lot of non-Fairies getting Moonblast, especially Alakazam and other already powerful Psychic types. That would be a good way to make Psychics blatantly OP once again, wouldn't it?
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Post by cephalopodAscendant Mon Oct 07, 2013 5:05 pm

Yeah, Game Freak needs to tread very carefully. Make Fairy-types too weak, and they've failed to counter Dragons like they were supposed to. Make them too powerful, and you've replaced one titan with another. As it is, Mega Evolutions are already redefining the metagame; the last thing we need is for the type chart to remain unbalanced. On that note, even with its new advantage, Poison could still use some assistance in terms of offensive options (Steel too, to some extent, although it's already dangerous defensively).
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