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Post by Spark Eletran on Tue Jun 16, 2015 10:29 pm

I WANT THAT M&L

ALSO STAR FOX LOOKS P GREAT

FEDERATION FORCE COULD BE FUN?

AND TRIFOCE HEROES WILL BE AMAZING FOR PLAYING W FRIENDS ESPECIALLY BECAUSE AAAA IT'S ONLINE YESS

ALSO FIRE EMBLEM IS MORE ANIME THAN EVER AND MARIO MAKER LOOKS AWESOME

THAT IS ALL.


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Post by OverlordJ on Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:54 am

I'm always excited when I see you guys are excited Very Happy
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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:41 pm

SPOIPERS FOR LONG POST:

I'm so disappointed in the way Nintendo have handled the negative response to Other M. Instead of pretending the Metroid franchise doesn't exist after one bad game, maybe try releasing a good main-series game to fix the series's reputation! That's sort of the normal thing to do. I wanna shoot some fuckin space pirates god damn it >:0

I could not care less about Mario Maker and I don't see why they're pushing it so hard? Like, yes, it's Mario's 30th anniversary. I get that. But... this isn't a game? It's a level creation tool. Like Stage Builder in Smash. It's sort of insulting that they're going to charge us full game price for a disc of this, and expect it to be their big game of the year.

Star Fox was a definite highlight. Miyamoto's interview was legitimately interesting, and the camera mechanic looks pretty tight. It could totally work with enough funding and the right people behind it, and if Miyamoto himself is heading the project it certainly won't be absolutely terrible.

Fire Emblem Fates is looking good! I don't think we really gained much new information from this trailer, which was a definite misstep, but the game's plot looks interesting and FE combat is really hard to fuck up with how consistent their track record is.

I will probably not be picking up the new Mario Tennis game because I don't care.

I can't not comment on FE x SMT but. What is there to even say. That was like, everything cringeworthy about anime in a neat package with a kawaii bow in about three minutes. And yet... I can't resist. I'll probably get it because of some sort of morbid curiosity.

MARIO AND LUIGI PAPER JAM YESSSSSSSSSS GUYS YOU DONT KNOW HOW EXCITED FOR THIS I AM THERES NO WAY THIS COULD BE ANY WORSE THAN STICKER STAR. LITERALLY JUST NO WAY. TWO OF MY FAVORITE GAME SERIES EVER ARE CROSSING OVER AND IM SUPER HYPE

I have never played an Animal Crossing game if I'm going to be totally honest. It's just not interesting to me. And the new party game seems like a blatant cash grab to me. You need amiibo to play, and it's basically just an Animal Crossing-themed Mario Party. I'll be ignoring this one entirely.

I also don't care about the Animal Crossing interior design game.

Ooh, Xenoblade Chronicles is still looking really cool. I want to play the original but I have no Cash Monies and so I can't. I mean, dinosaurs, guys. Alien dinosaurs. I think that's enough. I'm sold.

I have Hyrule Warriors on the Wii, I'm not going to get it on the 3DS just so I can play as fucking Tingle.

Triforce Heroes looks fun. That's all I can really comment on, I've never played Four Swords and in general i suck at zelda ._.

EW EW EW SKYLANDERS AMIIBO GET THAT SHIT OUT OF MY FACE

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Post by OverlordJ on Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:51 pm

I barely know what's going on with that E3 stuff, because I don't keep up with that stuff, but I saw a picture of a Link in Zelda's clothing and I approve of that.
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Post by d_what on Thu Jun 18, 2015 11:19 am

Aaargle! So I just got an infraction from MSPAF Neutral Softowl was very nice about it, but...

gosh. IT, you would have stronger opinions on this than most; would you personally prefer it if people wrapped everything they said ever in cotton wool? I'd value your opinion. Because lately I've felt on MSPAF the... tumblr anti-oppression brigade has left some mental scars, and now there's a lot of circle-jerk and group-think and the "don't ever be mean ever" which in reality often translates to "don't ever be seen to disagree ever".

My post was tagged as being "condescending and rude" - but while I'd understand the condescending, in the sense that a college lecturer has the nerve to tutor students, how dare they impart factual knowledge, I don't get the rude thing since my post was not targeted at anybody and instead was a reasonable and (frankly necessary) guide on how to form arguments.

I get that can be condescending. But, guys, the reverse end of that is, if you feel it is condescending, then you are by default saying "who are you to tell me how to debate logically, logic means nothing here." I have no regrets Neutral It also included a TL;DR, because my post was pretty long and not entirely relevant? I actually find TL;DRs useful because you can skim to the bottom of a post and see if it sounds interesting before commiting.

My post:
Spoiler:

Darn I thought when I went to bed after bE's post that this whole discussion had concluded :/
At this point, guys, it really is just a case of "we have to agree to disagree" because as Rational said, everybody is using words to mean separate things and everybody has very different moral guidelines. I think one thing everybody already agrees on is "lets try to do no harm where it doesn't have to be done, and be kind where kindness is important."

If I have to leave the thread with anything, though, it's this:
Never ever assume you are correct for any reason during a debate, especially if you think it's because you are "self-evidently" morally correct.
It leads to statements like *paraphrased*:

"you aren't necessarily racist, but society has made you act racist, and a lot of people are racist. You only need to stop, which can be difficult, but that should not stop you attempting it."

Which probably sounds fine on the outset! But that's because it makes a lot of assumptions and it's unsuitable for productive discussion.

Firstly, it paints the receiver and giver of the sentence in a very biased light. The person receiving the sentence gets tarred in a negative fashion, as in this sentence (with no other context given) they have clearly transgressed in some nebulous way. And it was probably a bad way, since racist is a bad word and they are being racist! This is a problem, because:

You can throw that sentence into any argument about race and it does the same thing, regardless of who it is being targeted at. To quote Terry Pratchett (referring to a character who happens to be wearing shackles during a trial) "It does rather bias the case against me." Hence, it is a valueless statement that meaninglessly defines two sides, "right" and "wrong", with the writer being self-evidently on the side of Right. Guys, in a debate, both sides think they are right. That is the point. It's circular logic to assume you are right from the outset. Likewise, proving the opposition is wrong only by saying or implying that they are wrong is equally circular.

The second problem! Is the offset of the blame. If it's "society's" fault, or some broader not-present entity (such as "your education" or "your parents") as opposed to the transgressor's fault, then that gives the previously would-be-bad-guy an out to avoid shame. PROVIDING... he/she distances themselves from whatever it is they did, and also in turn join the giver's side to blame society. ("You are right, I am sorry, Society made me this way, please do not blame me." Debate ends prematurely.) This is an escape clause with a catch, and is a (likely accidental) manipulative move. (Actually, there was also a Terry Pratchett bad guy who made a point of doing this... gosh, TP is very relevant to me today, RIP  ) Anyway, that doesn't mean that it's incorrect. Society (or whatever else) is often the progenitor of whatever mental processes people go through. But this is already well established, and society cannot defend itself in a debate, so it is essentially meaningless. In addition, it demeans the receiver by implying they are incapable of being responsible for their own actions. It's just not a good way to approach a debate.

The third and final problem. It's nonspecific! It doesn't outline exactly, in clear and concise terms, what the transgressor has done wrong, nor does it mention that this is in the writers opinion, and damningly, it doesn't make any attempt to help. This is the equivalent of going into a university debate, listening to the opposition, pausing, saying "No, you are wrong, stop being wrong and then you will be right" and then dropping the mic. It is very clearly and obviously useless and does not progress anything. Because, firstly, if you had convinced anybody, you haven't gone on to *change* anything. And secondly, you haven't actually convinced anybody!!! So in order to avoid doing this myself, I'm going to rephrase the statement in a somewhat more helpful manner.


"In my opinion, I can identify some of your reasoning as being faulty and potentially damaging to people of other races. My points are as follows: (makes points). I understand that from your point of view, you are saying (rephrase other person's opinion in own words to identify differences in terminology). If this is incorrect, please show where. If it isn't, then you have (transgression)'d because of (logical conjunction using previous points). I think in order to address this issue, we could [try an exercise where we all (group activity)/consider the following example scenario that displays evident problems/discuss this further using these terms]. "

"in my opinion" => I am not assuming my statement is fact and therefore shutting down debate.
"your reasoning is faulty" => not claiming the person themselves is faulty and sidestepping personal offence, but still making it clear it is THEIR reasoning that is faulty.
"damaging to other races" => just a polite way of avoiding labels, really. Plausibly optional.
"my points are as follows:" => Constructively outlines arguments.
"rephrased opinion" => displays understanding of the other side. This is fundamental to debate and a lot of people aren't doing it at all. >Neutral
"please show where" => Invites opposition to participate in a productive manner
"logical conjunction" => clear and factual conclusion to point.
"in order to... we could try:" => inclusive way to progress the issue at hand.

See?
I understand that a lot of people will never do this. It's very rarely either taught or learned. And it can be tough to actually bother, where an opinion-fuelled wordfest spills so easily onto the keyboard. But, guys, it's really the best and sometimes only way to establish actual facts or to conclusively end a debate! And if you think that's too hard or too pointless for you to even consider doing, plausibly because "why would I bother making logical points when I am so obviously correct", then...
In my opinion, you should not join discussions and expect anything good to follow. >:[ Logic is for life, not just for Christmas!



tl;dr 3 tips to avoiding useless statements and progressing discussions. please read, even if it's not specific to sex-ed!

The thing is. While I can totally get that this comes-off as being on a high-horse:

I am still not wrong. And knowing how to form an argument is really important! D: Someone really did use a version of the italicised text, and it is not a useful statement in any scenario. Maybe it's mean to point it out, but I made it subtle, and anyway, to quote Jacquerel:
"the point is that if you don't tell someone that what they are doing is [unhelpful to a rational debate] when they ask about it, they will assume it isn't and keep doing it. They won't magically gain understanding without being informed. You cannot advance if you are not aware that you are making any mistakes."

EDIT: haha I just noticed an irony in my post. But my conclusions are nevertheless factual, and there's no "other side" to it. It is, in fact, a meta-argument, separate from any specific argument itself.

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Post by OverlordJ on Thu Jun 18, 2015 4:41 pm

Eh, I'd need some context to judge whether or not that is rude, but unless there is a context that makes it sound rude, it seems mostly fine to me.

Also, many people will take offense when they are in an argument and someone tells them they are doing the argument wrong. Whether or not you are right, the people that are making the mistake are also the people least likely to listen to your advice in that situation.
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Post by d_what on Thu Jun 18, 2015 5:52 pm

OverlordJ wrote:
Whether or not you are right, the people that are making the mistake are also the people least likely to listen to your advice in that situation.

>my face when I read this

Picture a moment of calm. Then, a sudden realisation that in exactly half an hour you have to change a diaper. On a pig. Who is incontinent. And frisky. And has been eating smelly chunky things that don't digest well. In a sewage tank. And that there is nothing, absolutely nothing, that you can do to remotely change these circumstances. That is an approximate description of my face, when faced with this unfortunate truth. *sigh*


Edit: guys this is so interesting :O if it had a Pokémon in it and maybe some choice Terry Pratchett quotes it would cover basically all of my interests! http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/18/google-image-recognition-neural-network-androids-dream-electric-sheep

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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Fri Jun 19, 2015 12:08 am

That is interesting. And trippy.

Anyways, check this out: a guide to competitive breeding on the official Pokémon site. Looks like the closest we'll get to an official term for IV's is individual strengths.
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Post by OverlordJ on Fri Jun 19, 2015 8:46 am

Those dream images are awesome
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Post by d_what on Sat Jun 20, 2015 6:47 pm

So, guys, which webcomics or webseries have you been browsing in your spare time? It'd be nice to know which ones I share and which fantastic ones I'm missing.

Things I like (in no particular order) :
BardQuest and its spinoff Parabard Space
Paranatural (thank you, Zack Morrison, for existing)
Cucumber Quest (RPG tropes out the wazoo, and wonderful villains)
GastroPhobia(short updates, but always humorous; cartoon-network vibe)
Injustice: Gods Among Us (DC Batman V Superman. Fun stuff, lots of death, good to brush up on DC heroes)
XKCD ("relevant to my interests")
Floraverse - Seeds (mostly for PK's art and worldbuilding, fast updates and interesting cast)

Things I remain unconvinced about:
Ava's Demon - don't get me wrong, really great premise and art. But it updates SO. SLOWLY. AND ERRATICALLY. I feel anybody buying the Kickstarter books one and two are really just buying a prologue!
Monster Pulse - It's fine! I just don't know why I read it. Not in a mean way - I mean I literally don't know why. Possibly because of its really well timed updates?
Crossed: The Webcomic - It's a (finished) comic about a guy who's surviving a Zombie apocalypse. It's not humorous, it's kind of gory. IDK though. The art is boring, the characters unlikeable, and it's not really anything new or interesting. I still read it to the end though so YMMV.
Dead Winter: Ava's Demon sydrome again. Updates too slowly to bother checking it, but it's the kind of comic that requires a single run-through. Call me again when it's finished.

Things I remain especially unconvinced about, or actually can't be bothered reading anymore:
MonsterKind - (*), slowish updates and meagre content. Reeeeeeally meagre.
Sister Claire - Updates pretty slowly, good premise and content, but it's fallen off my medium-list due to recent and sudden (*) (*)
Helvetica - Ava's Demon syndrome without the previous content to back it up. It'll go up the list as it gets more content.
Skin Deep - (*) (*) (*) (*) omg (*)
Penny Arcade - The reverse XCKD; "not relevant to my interests". I don't get most of the jokes?
Cyanide and Happiness - Best enjoyed when randomly seen on Facebook, and not browsed through IMO.

Explanation of (*):
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One thing all of the (*) comics have in common is a strong focus on...
prepare yourselves, this will sound really bad at first, lol...

Minorities!

Yeah that really DOES sound bad. Okay, it's not what you think! And it's not what you thought after being told it's not what you think. Let me start explaining.
Basically, in each of them, there is a strong focus on "diverse" casts. Almost every tumblr-borne-label you can think of in total, up to and including 2-spirit and demi-metro-romantic or whatever. Which is in itself... kind of a turn off, because I don't see a lot in that part of Tumblr that I can personally reconcile with. But it goes way deeper than that for me. See, a lot of these comics *are* aimed at the classic Tumblr demographic, and why shouldn't they be? It's a growth market, and representation of everything in some form or another is important and should be supported. But after a certain point, to me it starts to seem deliberate, and then overwhelming - I much prefer media where someone's sexuality is NOT the first thing you find out about almost every new character, or where everyone is NOT somehow a hipster? Moderation, y'know?
But it goes deeper than that still! Homestuck has a notoriously diverse cast, especially with the trolls. But, while the representation is there, it's overshadowed by themes, and plot, and drama, and worldbuilding, and all the things I go to read comics for.
Because what I *don't* read comics for, is...
Spoiler:

Relationships!

This is actually where all those comics really fall down for me. You know how I said representation is important? It super-is. So when someone who is a classic sexual minority, or perhaps is still discovering their sexuality, read these comics, they feel really connected to them. And that's great! But therein lies my problem.

I have a notoriously low interest in my own personal sexuality. To the point that claiming myself as an "ace" would be too much effort. And I rarely see any of that in those comics, so I feel a personal disconnect. This is why things like CucumberQuest or Homestuck or Paranatural do well with me; their personal protagonists have other things to be doing than worrying about Romantic Relationships. John is... kind of oblivious to it all! Even if I like how he treats Roxy, fact is, he's like that with basically everybody, and I really dig it. I like how being nice to her overrides any major relationship dealy thing that all the other characters seem to get. And he's the main character! <3 CucumberQuest and Paranatural both have fairly young protagonists who are far to busy to worry about that kind of thing, while still maintaining a relatively diverse cast. Floraverse's cast is almost absurdly diverse in terms of gender/sexuality things, but it's a non-issue in the story and only comes across during wiki searches or blog posts. Plausably this is why Monster Pulse isn't higher on my list; each of the major characters have had some sort of romantic focus, which I'm fine with in moderation, but when I think of myself at their age it pulls me out of the fiction into a world of personal disbelief.

Ironically, it's a majority-fuelled disconnect. While 99.9% of people have a sexuality of some sort, all it takes for me to identify with a comic is to have moments where it's not part of the current scene, as opposed to having a dedicated asexual character. Which is ridiculously easy to do, and is done by default in most media (excepting romantic subplots or sex jokes, which is still fine for me as long as it's not the ONLY thing in said media).

And you guys probably thought I was gonna be racist. Heheheh.

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Post by ilikeoctopus on Sat Jun 20, 2015 7:41 pm

Ah, I'm up for this! I've been following fewer webcomics than before college, but:

I do agree with Paranatural and XKCD--Paranatural's humor is great and XKCD is... what it is.

I also agree that Ava's Demon is waaaay too slow. I lost track of a while ago and haven't looked back since.

Monsterkind I do personally enjoy. I do agree that it updates kind of slowly and with little payback, but it's the sort of thing that's pretty easy to follow and let sit for a few weeks before checking back.

Girl Genius is also one that I tend to let sit, but it has pretty meaty updates. I'm not the biggest fan of the art style, but I find the alternate steampunk universe pretty interesting and the characters... well, fun.

Namesake is one of my favorites, with a relaxing sort of art style and an intriguing plot about fictional worlds from literature that are in actuality real. The plot keeps getting deeper and there's a lot of backstory, which I enjoy!

Awkward Zombie is just kind of fun to look at every now and then when it updates.

Q2Q Comics--I just have very fond memories of being a theatre tech in high school, so these always make me smile.

And that's about it, really. Looking forward to reading everything you guys post!
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Sat Jun 20, 2015 8:18 pm

I've got a ton. I'll second Cucumber Quest, xkcd, Awkward Zombie, and Girl Genius. There's also:

Blasphemous Saga Fantasy - Despite the name, there's really nothing offensive about it, unless you're one of those crazy people who gets offended at anything fantasy. It's kind of similar to Cucumber Quest, but slightly more subdued and not quite as pretty.
Darths & Droids - What if the Star Wars movies were a tabletop gaming campaign? For one thing, they'd make a whole lot more sense. Notable achievements include making Jar Jar likable. It started with Episode I, and they've just gotten to Episode VI, with plans to tackle Disney's sequel trilogy as well.
Freefall - A sci-fi comic about one of the strangest ship crews you'll ever see. Sam Starfall is the cowardly, thieving captain, and an alien from the first race humanity ever encountered. His second-in-command, Helix, is a naive robot who was designed to pick things up and put them down. Rounding out the list is their engineer Florence, an uplifted wolf designed as a proof-of-concept for a method that could let humanity colonize planets that have opposite-chirality amino acids. In case that last part didn't tip you off, the comic's got a fair amount of actual science behind it, even if Sam and Helix do try the whole "JATO strapped to a truck" thing early on. Lately, it's also been exploring the ethics of artificial intelligence, particularly when it's spread on a global scale.
Manly Guys Doing Manly Things - A commando from the future runs a temp agency for ludicrously macho pop culture characters. It's... really hard to describe, but it's absolutely hilarious. One of the characters is probably the worst Pokémon trainer ever (or maybe the best, depending on your viewpoint).
Moképon - A warped take on the original Pokémon games and the anime. The protagonist, Atticus, really doesn't want to go on his journey, but nobody's really giving him much of a choice in the matter.
Order of the Stick - If you haven't heard of Order of the Stick, I don't know what to tell you. Stick figures in a 3.5E D&D world. The plot can get surprisingly dark at times.
Precocious - Think Calvin and Hobbes if there were an entire fifth grade class full of him. Together, these kids get up to some major destruction, and it's absolutely hilarious.
Rusty and Co. - A Mimic, a Rust Monster, and a Gelatinous Cube form an adventuring party. They're about as good at it as you might expect.
Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - A middle ground between xkcd and Cyanide and Happiness. Alternatively, The Far Side, if it could get away with more sexual content.
The Adventures of Dr. McNinja - He's a ninja who's also got a medical license. And it's awesome. He's also got a gorilla for a receptionist, and a mustachioed teenage sidekick who rides a velociraptor. In case you haven't figured it out, logic and realism are not hallmarks of this comic.
The Non-Adventures of Wonderella - A mish-mash of Superman and Wonder Woman, Wonderella is... not so good at this whole "hero" thing. Also includes parodies of several other superheroes and supervillains.
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Post by kotakun on Sat Jun 20, 2015 9:55 pm

i dont really have much to add i mean i follow so few and xkcd oots and maps have already been mentioned probably the only one that i could add is
irregular webcomic - from one of the creator of darths and droids (or should i say darths and droids was from the creator of iwc because he spun it off) its a ton of geeky humor from dungeons and dragons to indiana jones to william shakespeare to mythbusters to nigerian prince scam emails
officially it ended in 2011 however the author decided to rerun the strips from the beginning except on sundays where there would be discussions about things like scientific theory or the laws of thermodynamics or cameras however recently even this has changed to creating more new comics twice a week
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Post by Spark Eletran on Sun Jun 21, 2015 12:25 am

ALRIGHT IT IS TIME FOR ME TO INTRODUCE ALL YALL TO A NEW AWESOME COMIC.

The Black Brick Road of Oz.

So, first of all - Made by Xamag. The one from the HS art team! Y'know, [S] Wake, the shot of two people looking at each other in Cascade... Also the A6A6I5 flash, most of the contributions in it... And a buncha other stuff too ofc.

Unfortunately the original cover pic is down or something? I'm not sure. That cover u see there is very non-indicative of the overall tone of the story though don't be fooled! Here, this is the original one. AMAZING art of course, like seriously art inspiration right there, A+ character designs and everything... It has some interesting interactive flash stuff too, which is to be expected. And the story...
Though, ofc, it still seems to mostly be in the first stages story-wise (we just barely finished meeting all the main characters!), I do think it seems reaaaaally interesting so far. Xamag's posted some stuff in other sources (deviantart mostly) that lets us have a slight idea of what's to come (not much, don'tworry, and it's technically a bit of a spoiler anyways) and... Wow. I rly like it personally and find it rly interesting and just aAAART
The only downside is the speed, since it does go a page per week. It also tends to slow down a bit more when flashes come, with slight mini-breaks, which has become more recent lately. She's aware of it and has said herself that she hopes to get outta hiatus zone after the next flash due to summer!

Another great webcomic, too, is The Property of Hate! Pretty great art (It doesn't look that bad in the beginning outside of a few palette choices but as time goes in it's just DAMN) and super interesting story with lots of focus on the human mind and emotions and our subconscious and how all that works.

It updates consistently one page per week, buuut... Right now the author's got an injured right arm, which led to it going on hiatus since she can't draw. Well, she can with her left hand but it's obviously much harder and not quite as good ofc. So, until that problem's taken care of, no updates on it probably which sucks :<
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Post by OverlordJ on Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:07 am

My opinions on comic others posted about:
BardQuest -  Don't know this one
Paranatural - YES!
Cucumber Quest - YES!
GastroPhobia - YES!
Injustice: Gods Among Us - I don't know this one
XKCD - Hell Yes!
Floraverse - Seeds - Don't think I've heard about this one before?
Ava's Demon - Agreed. I love the story but I never check it anymore because I just know it won't have updated. Ugh.
Monster Pulse - Eh, I like it, but I ge what you feel.
Crossed: The Webcomic - Don't think I know that one.
Dead Winter - I think I read a bit of that one once, eh...
MonsterKind - I check it sometimes because I think the design is pretty adorable
Sister Claire - Amusingly, I mainly stopped caring about the comic but I LOVE the Missing Moments. They are SO well written. I've read your spoiler and I think you might want to give it a try, it's a bit less about romance, though not totally without it
Helvetica - I like this one and while the updates are slow they are much more consistent then Ava's. Plus, I really like the idea and design of it. Also I find the fact that Trilby is wearing a fedora and Fedora is wearing a trilby way funnier then I should
Skin Deep - Never heard of that
Penny Arcade - I don't care for Penny arcade but the site also has a link to Camp Weedonwantcha, which is a great comic.
Cyanide and Happiness - I check it every once in a while when I want a chuckle or feel bored
Girl Genius - I agree with you, octo
Namesake - I love this one, because I always loved the idea of fictional world existing in other realities and reading a webcomic about it is awesome
Awkward Zombie - Yeah, I enjoy the jokes
Q2Q Comics - Don't know this one...
Blasphemous Saga Fantasy - Never heard of this
Darths & Droids - I haven't check this one in a while, it's fun but doesn't hold my attention for some reason
Freefall - I can't bring myself to check it out, don't know why, just doesn't seem interessting to me...
Manly Guys Doing Manly Things - I think this webcomic is both incredibly deep AND hilarious. Also, I like that it features a more realistic view on romance
Moképon - I forgot about this one and haven't checked it in a while, I should probably do that now...
Order of the Stick - It's good if you like DnD, it's okay if you don't.
Precocious - Don't know this one
Rusty and Co. - I like it, but I think it's just okay...
Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal - cA basically hit the nail on the head with the desciption. I really enjoy it by the way.
The Adventures of Dr. McNinja - If you like stuff like Axe Cop, Dr. McNinja will be great.
The Non-Adventures of Wonderella - I know it but I don't really like it. I don't hate it, I just don't care.

Comics I read that haven't been meantioned (I think):
El Goonish Shive - It's weird but I quite like it. It might not be your type of comic D, but I think it's enjoyable and it has a shitton of weird stuff in it. Also, an arc about MtG that was so long that the Author joked that the comic was a Gaming Comic now
Dumbing of Age - I enjoy David Willis Stuff, this one is the only one that isn't finished AFAIK and it's about college stuff
Last Halloween - This comic is incredible. Life was so normal untill the day were the monsters decided to murder the humans and now the end of the world is happening and an increasingly unhinged little girl is stuck with finding a way to solve that issue. She might not be enjoying it but I sure as hell am
Endtown - Speaking of the end of the world, this is a comic about a post apocaliptic world. There were bombs that caused horrible mutations. Most humans turned into Lovcraftian monsters, but the ones that were asleep when the bombs hit instead just turned into animal lookalikes. Now they are fighting for their survival in the wasteland, as the only remaining non mutated humans are trying to hunt them down to "cleanse" the earth from all mutants.
Skin Horse - Speaking of secret wars, the spiritaul succesor of Narbonic is an awesome comic about a world full of mad science, except more modern and with the crazy people not in charge, unlike in Girl Genius
Atomic Robot - Speaking of crazy science, have a comic about an alternate History, in which Tesla build an atomic robot, who has become a well known action scientist. It's not as silly as it sounds and if you don't mind a bit technobabble, very enjoyable
Grrl Power - Speaking of Alternate History, well, not really. It's just another super hero comic, but more character driven then most.
Weregeek - I've run out of "Speaking of which" jokes but never mind that. Weregeek is a pretty fun comic about a group of people playing various RPs together, from classic DnD to Pathfinder to Larps and Vampire RPs. It's got an interessting twist in the middle which I found quite well done
Guilded Age - And another Game comic, this time a bit more about the MMORPGs. It also has an interesting twist to it
Goblins - And another DnD comic, this time written from the perspective of a group of Goblins. Because why should we always focus on the adventurers, right?
Yet another Fantasy Gamer Comic - Not really a gamer comic and more generic fantasy, though inspired by DnD I guess. I enjoy it, though I am not sure if they managed to fix the archives yet...
Let's Speak English - An English Teacher in Japan is writing a cute comic about her life and I enjoy her humor.
Go Get a Roomie - NSFW, contains Nudity. It's not an erotic comic though, mostly humor and some deep thoughts every once in a while. It also features a very nice, nonsexual romance, that some people still aren't sure about if the two people are just friends or in love.
Oglaf - Speaking of NSFW, yeah, this one actually has sex jokes, so stay away if you're too young for that. It's not really erotic, I'd think, but it is very much NSFW. Some comics that aren't NSFW are especially marked in the archive, so you could try checking that out I guess
Unsounded - A Fantasy Comic about Undeath and Magic and stuff. I like it a lot but tend to forget to check up on it...
Daughter of Lillies - And lastly, another Fantasy Comic. It's not very long yet, but it's interessting in what it has so far.

I'm probably forgetting some that I check every once in a while but those should be most

EDIT: Oh yeah, I'm reading the Black Brick Road to Oz, but I wish it would update more frequently...
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Post by Spark Eletran on Sun Jun 21, 2015 2:37 am

Wow u guys read a lotta comics damn

I literally read like. those two. Oh and also Awful Hospital, rite - Which btw is like this almost mspa-ish comic on Bogleech with cool-looking art and gr8 humor and it updates one page per day too (tho one mspa page in this case, ofc)
Actually kinda hard to keep up with it almost :0 Rly cool tho
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Post by d_what on Sun Jun 21, 2015 6:18 am

Lol OJ BardQuest was a joke, it's one of Andrew's titular mspaint adventures. And "parabard space" was an allusion to Paradox Space.

I have started into Namesake, intriguing but its too early to say anything yet. It reminds me a lot of Black Brick Road through, for obvious reasons. Which I *have* read but entirely forgot about, and...
Listen, the art is Xamag, of course its great. But
1) you can tell English isn't her first language
And
2) too much alluded-to-characterisation and mystery, not enough exposition. Well over half the time I'm making John's "?" face. I just don't know what the deal is with pretty much all of the characters!

I also forgot to mention Lackadaisy Cats! Which is on a whole other level. Like HS, I feel iffy about including it as a Webcomic, but this time its because the art transcends webcomics. Alas, it doesn't update often either, hopefully by the time I'm 30 I can purchase a full book's worth of the story.

If I had to recommend any two, it'd be injustice and seeds. Injustice because it's lolworthy in regards to the amount of cliffhangers it has, but its well into year 4 and has a LOT of content. It's just the kind of thing you have to see. Also, Supes and Harley Quinn have their best characterisation since forever. You don't need to be a comic book fan to read them :0
Seeds because if you read seeds then we can design a species together! It's under an open licence so anybody can add to the world, only since the Kickstarter PK has raised the bar for actually getting canonised (i.e pay money and we'll talk).

http://nameofaccount.deviantart.com/art/Species-Shelkies-with-a-H-479559048
Hmmm gosh fascinating that sure is a fascinating and familiar  art style there hmm I wonder who this mystery artist is hmmm gosh so mysterious???????
Edit: lol I forgot OGLAF too. Man, it is SO NSFW, but it is also pretty funny.

E: take floraverse off my recommended. The seeds storyline has been dropped for various... What Hussie would probably call masturbatory self-insert characters with mysteries upon mysteries and no actual base to build upon. Sigh!


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Post by OverlordJ on Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:51 am

d_what wrote:Lol OJ BardQuest was a joke, it's one of Andrew's titular mspaint adventures. And "parabard space" was an allusion to Paradox Space.

Derp, not sure how I missed that I must have been WAY too tired.

I also forgot to mention Lackadaisy Cats! Which is on a whole other level. Like HS, I feel iffy about including it as a Webcomic, but this time its because the art transcends webcomics.

I do like the art and I've seen this one before but I don't think I've actually read it...

If I had to recommend any two, it'd be injustice and seeds.

I think I've seen Seeds before. And is Injustice a Webcomic? I thought Injustice Gods Among us or whatever was a regular comic?

http://nameofaccount.deviantart.com/art/Species-Shelkies-with-a-H-479559048
Hmmm gosh fascinating that sure is a fascinating and familiar  art style there hmm I wonder who this mystery artist is hmmm gosh so mysterious???????

That looks quite lovely Very Happy

Speaking of Comic we forgot about, allow me to link Archipelago it has quite a bit of pages, but nothing a Homestuck reader couldn't handle. I quite enjoy the story. It's fantasy-ish, I'd say, but I'm not sure how to describe it. I linked the first page, by the way, so the art style does improve.

And how the heck did noone link Prequel yet? Do you like Homestuck? Do you like Elder Scrolls? Do you like somewhat slow but awesomly animated updates with a story that already has epic moments and is still just in the beginning? Try Prequel.


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Post by d_what on Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:04 am

Yeah it's a regular comic, only it isn't printed, so it is put on the web, making it a, uh, web, comic...

mspa

The Last Halloween is good but I need more content, stat! >:0 I've archived the whole thing between posting these messages!

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Post by OverlordJ on Sun Jun 21, 2015 8:12 am

Huh, I didn't know that about Injustice.

Last Halloween Updates like once a week I think. Not especially fast but at least consistent
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Sun Jun 21, 2015 1:36 pm

Oh right, I need to go back and give Archipelago another chance. Part of the problem is that the RSS feed routinely breaks, so I don't actually get updates for months at a time. Also I've completely lost track of the characters and plot. I've read a few Oglaf comics here and there, but I haven't ever read it straight through. It's definitely NSFW: The Comic.
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Post by Spark Eletran on Sun Jun 21, 2015 7:59 pm

d_what wrote:1) you can tell English isn't her first language

... well I mean
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I can't really say anything about that yknow. :0
Brazil and all. Also kinda wanna make a webcomic someday. Yeaaaah. :0

d_what wrote:2) too much alluded-to-characterisation and mystery, not enough exposition. Well over half the time I'm making John's "?" face. I just don't know what the deal is with pretty much all of the characters!

Ehh. I mean, we're literally in an arc talking about the backstory of one of the characters right now so... Shrug. I don't see the problem myself.

also I haven't read like any of these comics except for like AZ and Ava's Demon lolwhoops
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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Sun Jun 21, 2015 10:13 pm

Ohoho, i love me some webcomics.

I highly recommend the following three that no one has suggested yet:

Gunnerkrigg Court: A Harry-Potter-esque magical school story that's deeply rooted in world mythology and English culture and history. Also, the art is gorgeous. Forgive the stylization at the beginning, it improves very quickly.

Witchy: Based around the interesting concept that hair length dictates magic power. The art's fantastic and the coloring's quite pretty. Facial expressions are a definite highlight here.

Penelope: This is in no way a shameless plug for my friend's comic, but he's a great artist, the comic has social justice themes, and SO MANY FINAL FANTASY IN-JOKES.

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Post by Xaber on Mon Jun 22, 2015 3:41 am

gunnerkrigg court is amazing i would highly recommend it
order of the stick is also really good if you can get through the first ~200 pages of dumb D&D jokes

so far nobody's (fuck sorry OJ) recommended Unsounded, which is a pretty good epic fantasy (it gets pretty dark though and there's graphic violence and some nudity so be warned), and Stand Still Stay Silent, which is a [censored by the d_what hegemony] semi-fantasy adventure that has amazing art


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Post by d_what on Tue Jun 23, 2015 5:15 pm

Okay, wow, I'm really glad I asked. This has been highly informative, guys!

So of *all of those* I have successfully added Last Halloween and Stand Still Stay Silent to my mental "check this" list; Namesake is on there but it's not gonna be something I check regularly. I think any single page isn't gonna be too useful and is best read archivally, like Dead Winter. (So is SS SS actually, but I'll forgive that because I like the art Razz)

I've actually read Unsounded before!! But I forgot I had. I only read the first chapter because it had been hosted on Imgur, but it was so popular that day the servers crashed and I'd forgotten about it. Thanks for reminding me, Xaber and OJ! (Actually you might wanna remove the description of Stand Still, I think it works better as a surprise ;P)

I feel like I need to have badges made. "Life is too short to not read webcomics" or, the bastardised version for knock off t-shirts:

"KEEP CALM
&
READ WEBCOMICS"

uuururrrrrgghhh. >X|

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