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Re: General chat: Talk about literally anything because you do anyway.

Post by OverlordJ on Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:24 pm

I am OverlordJ and I don't think I follow anyone?

Honestly, I have pretty much no idea how to use tumblr, all I do is VERY RARELY reblog something
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:25 pm

Meanwhile, I don't have a tumblr at all.
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Re: General chat: Talk about literally anything because you do anyway.

Post by d_what on Sun Mar 30, 2014 4:40 pm

cough cough cough

You know, the HS fandom sure has been quiet lately. No huge influx of music or faux-animes or anything. Closest I've found to "new" HS stuff to do is listen to Catboss's latest medley extensively, and that's 7 months old now...
...though they get progressively better. Emissary of Dance > Dance-stab-Dance >> MeGaDanceVania. But my GODS is it fun to suddenly sing a long to a really specific bit because you know how that specific song goes. (http://catbossaudio.tumblr.com/tagged/medley)

But yeah. Fandom? Mucho quiet. The Huss should've organised another official fan album to keep us occupied!

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Post by kotakun on Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:04 pm

you want a rse remake? well just look west young man you see those hills over there? legend has it that the day the sun rises over those mountains and hits this forum will be the day that the remakes are announced also that day will be the end of the world because stuff is seriously fucked up if the sun is rising in the west
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Post by d_what on Sun Mar 30, 2014 5:06 pm

what if I turn around 180 degrees and make west relative to my position? Nobody has ever told me why I can't do that.

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Post by Hanky Panky on Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:34 pm

The more I think about it, the lamer polearms are. Plus, I'm naturally a grappler so it wouldn't make sense to use a weapon with longer range. What if I alchemized some brawling gloves with a black hole? Then just draw enemies in like iron tager and pummel them. Never have to worry about evading enemies then

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Post by kotakun on Sun Mar 30, 2014 6:58 pm

because if east is west then one equals zero and the world blows up
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Post by d_what on Sun Mar 30, 2014 7:12 pm

Those are all really great ideas Hanky! Really cool and visual. I'd need specifics if I was ever gonna doodle them though.




okay, spilling the beans again. Sorry Spark I do not have a tumblr and will never have a tumblr! I'm pretty sure I've mentioned this already.

But this segues to something that's been on my mind lately rather a lot lately.
Warning: Very very long text about tumblr and feelings and human nature, in which D_what [losesHisCollectiveShit/GetsDepressinglyRational], select preference.

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I'm not going to join tumblr. Mostly because I do not have time. But largely because I find it upsetting. I can't go on it and not eventually end up on some page with a thousand reblogs about one group of tumblr users refuting/arguing with/hating another group of users. Typically, but not always, this refers to "social justice warriors". And, as I may have mentioned before, my own personal motto - that I do genuinely try to live by - is people are always people, and not things. I don't like to complicate things and throw labels around and treat people as though they are purely objects in a predefined archetype for the sake of organisation, or because my brain prefers it that way. And because I can't know what anybody but myself will ever do in any given instance, I can't do a whole lot to make the world a better place, short of actually being a better person on a day to day basis.

So I try.

And I do try. Simple things. Being self aware has some benefits;
"Oh no, I forgot it was Mother's day! Guilt, worry. Must buy card. Guilt - giving in to capitalism? Ignore. Will consider later. Is card enough? Worry. Card is expensive, may not have cash on hand. Guilt. Parents might think I'm being cheap. Guilt. Spend more money! Guilt. Only spending money to alleviate feelings of guilt, not out of consideration for parents. Further guilt. Am bad person? Remove thought from head. Being silly. Guilt: self-absorbed. Buy the damn card. Anger. Sadness. Pride? Superiority. Others may not think so deeply about actions. Guilt - thinking of oneself as being better than others. Not nice. Argues; pride is necessary for development of a personality. Improves confidence. Guilt; unsure about everything. Bought the damn card."


...but it's a mixed blessing. By-and-large, I live as though I want people to not ever have to worry about me, and if I can smooth their passage through life in any way, I try to, if I notice an opportunity. And I work at improving how often I spot these opportunities. Again, simple things. I know the answer to a question in class - maybe I won't put my hand up. Maybe someone else would like to. Maybe it's tall poppy syndrome? Who knows! Maybe someone would like help with it later. I'll enquire gently as to how people are getting on with their projects. If they need help I'll tell them I can try to help, if not then that's fine and I won't mention it. I don't throw trash around the place. I tidy up other people's rubbish without complaint, though if someone does it in front of me I'll chide them gently. I suggest vegetarian options to my family and friends when I think they might be receptive. I consider the opinions of somebody I disagree with and try to consider how they're feeling. I dislike war but don't feel I have enough of a right to outright disagree with it. I fact-check stats I hear on the internet, and I tell people that I might be wrong every time I say something that they could use as a fact or reference in the future, especially if I can't remember how I heard it in the first place. I understand human nature is often a biological thing and people have a right to act irrationally. I pity people driven to do bad things and worry whether or not I provide enough support to people considering them. I feel physically sick when I hear of hate crimes, regardless of the status of the victim or the criminals, or the type of hate, and I stress, all the time, that this may not be enough, and I worry that other people aren't trying also. That's all I can do. "Try".

And then I go on Tumblr and find a post from, I dunno, anybody, claiming that all whovians are X. Or all 14-year-olds are Y. Or all people who are black are Z. And that bothers me. Because I "try" to put myself in the shoes of both parties, and in these cases, I find myself torn between the often anecdotal or groupthink-supplied evidence of the claimant, and an entire group of people who have been shunted together and fixed with some sort of label. And it's interesting, because often the group being labeled can simultaneously be applying a label to the person doing the initial labeling! And what I come out with is a definite sense of, not of right-or-wrong, or rights-and-privileges, of groupthink, or special-snowflakes, or history, or the future of mankind, but simply "why can't people simplify things for themselves?", and act as though they actually heard the central message of any modern religion: Treat people as you would like to be treated. Not as you ARE treated. And that those people are made of individuals, and you can't change that. The specifics are not the major issue here.

Where I see this thrown right into my face is racism. Or homophobia, or transphobia, or (generalising this) any time anybody groups a bunch of people together based on a single arbitrary (yes, it is arbitrary! People will always find a reason to dislike other people) attribute they have, whether it is race or religion or sexual preference or gender or where they were born or what jobs their parents have or their belief system. And it is wrong, because it causes hurt. And that is ultimately what I consider to be wrong. If it causes hurt, it is wrong. Therefore, I "try" not to cause hurt.

Perhaps it's selfish! Maybe I want to try to be a better person, maybe I'm in it for the celestial reward, or maybe, out of some karma-inspired misconception, I believe that if I'm nice to people, they'll be nice to me. Maybe all of those things are true. It doesn't actually matter, because you can only affect what impact *you* have, not what anyone else does, and therefore their motives have no effect on you, just as yours should have no effect on them. If the net result is less hurt, then I am for it.

And that's why I get bothered by stuff I find on tumblr. Because it doesn't just start at the -isms or the -phobias above. I go in with an open mind and I find myself being pulled into a "group". And being "labeled." And then, by extension, being told "kill yourself", "the world is better off without you, scum", and "you have no right to an opinion." It's actually the last one that hurts the most. Because it makes me wonder whether or not my "theory", that grouping people by a label is ultimately a bad idea, is a lot of bull and also that my central tenet to life is a load of bull. And that maybe I am a load of bull. And, understandably I think, that is bad. Because I haven't even posted yet. I haven't even JOINED yet. All I am is "a person" living "on earth" who TRIES to make life easier for people, and cares about people, and worries about people, and their opinions, everywhere. But I don't know how to react when I come across others who support the view that I am bad and my ideas are bad. I am not suggesting they are wrong. I am not sure that I'm not.

I guess it could be shock; maybe I'm in the wrong universe. Maybe this proves that either the universe is fundamentally flawed, or that I am fundamentally flawed, and it'd be easier to believe it was me. Look at all the evidence the world provides me. I couldn't possibly be right against all of that. I'm probably wrong just for eliciting the opinion that this is all about me.

That's another part of it. There will always, always be something I say that somebody on tumblr will take offense to. Maybe transphobia is politically incorrect to some people. If it is, I'm sorry. If you want me to use a different pronoun when talking to you, please tell me. I am sorry for my ignorance. Maybe I offended people by saying "people who are black" as an example earlier. I'm sorry for that also. Maybe there are people who are offended that I am saying this when I am a cis white male. I'm sorry. And, because there will be people offended that I had the nerve to apologise, I'm sorry for that, too. In my head, my motives are not important when it's the message that matters, but maybe I am wrong. I'm sorry. You see, I can't survive on tumblr. It's not good for me as a functioning human being; even buying a holiday card is somewhat of a mental struggle on several different conscious layers. I don't think it would be prudent to start doubting my doubts' doubts. I would never get anything done.















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The stuff above was most certainly how I feel about things, that is truth. What is also truth is that I can feel several things at once.
And right now, I am feeling two things.
I feel that one part of my psyche, the emotive, rational, placid side of me, that wants to see everything be peaceful, feels the above is the correct way to go.
And I feel that another part of me, the human, animal, angry, but survivalist part of me, the part of that wants to see everything be right, feels that it isn't.

It's like being suddenly in the midst of a battle, and holding a sword. I tell myself: Put the sword away. Sheathe it. Don't contribute to the hate, step away and live life peacefully.
And I tell myself: Use it. Protect yourself. Rid the world of the people contriburing to the hate. Justify yourself.

And both sides have their points. So I'll identify the second side as follows:
I am offended. Firstly, I feel anger at the people who will claim that I have no right to be offended. Who are you, they might claim, a cis white male, to feel uncomfortable, when we, (a group of people), have been far more judged than you? What gives you the right?

To that I say: Piss off? I live my life cleanly and I always have the right to my feelings. I didn't do anything to offend you other than be offended, while you in turn generalised me, brought me into this mess, labeled me with your ill-defined terms, derided me, insulted me, and made me out to be the bad guy? Does this sounds wrong to you? Maybe it doesn't, because ultimately I am a cis white male.

This is terrible, terrible logic. Akin to "The bible is right because god wrote the bible and in the bible it says god is right."

But let's step aside from that for a moment, and assume that I am NOT a cis white male. Before posting, perhaps you didn't know I was. I could have edited all instances of cis white male to Turkish Genderfluid Female, and, guess what: THE SEMANTIC CONTENT OF MY MESSAGE WOULD NOT HAVE CHANGED. You can argue, of course, that my motives or attributes change the relevance of my message. It does not. My message is not specific to me. It is a bundle of ideas and thoughtforms that anyone can subscribe to. Also, by doing so you admit that you a) group people by a label you apply to them, which is objectively wrong, and b) are concerned more about my motives than about what I'm actually doing, or in this case saying, which I have addressed above.

Also, you have no guarantee that I am a cis white male. After this the boundaries between metaphor and reality get a little blurry, so try to follow.
I don't date. I have no interest in dating. That does not imply I am asexual, or aromantic. I might be. The point is, you don't know. All you know is that I don't date. That is commonly accepted logic. Perhaps I am straight. Perhaps I am attracted to girls but have no interested in dating them at the moment. Perhaps I never will, perhaps I am socially stunted and afraid, perhaps I am fine around people and am simply happy as I am. You don't know. Alternatively, perhaps I am gay. Perhaps I am afraid to come out. Perhaps I worry that other people judge me already and will judge me further. Perhaps I'm confused. Perhaps I'm bi. Perhaps, and this one is interesting, I am one of the latter options BUT since I don't date ANYWAY it's easier to assume the identity of being straight since my actions don't change but the world becomes nicer to me. Interesting, eh? Maybe I'm not a cis white male. You don't have the "privilege" to assume I am. You can guess, but you can't use it as a reference point in an argument and be right 100% of the time. The point is. You don't know. And all of that boils down to is: what is behind the scenes for me is unimportant to you. To put it very, very bluntly: (TW explicit?) What I masturbate to in the privacy of my own home is of no concern to you and it does not affect anything I say. And I will not have you judge me and label me when you don't know a single solitary fuck about me, okay? I will treat you as you in RESPECT will treat me. That is COMMON HUMAN DECENCY and if the ENTIRE WORLD DID THAT we would NOT BE HAVING ANY OF THIS DISCUSSION.


Another part that bothers the logic-wielding, angry-but-objective hindbrain part of me, is the idea that some people get wrapped up in the specifics. Last year, while doing a computer science module, I was told by a head lecturer:

There are two types of people in this world: Those that simplify, and those that add complexity.

As in anything, you need both. But what I hear from the SJWs is almost entirely from the latter group. Consider: You have a hate crime. You can simplify or generalise the crime to being people hating on people. In Object-Oriented terms, this is "object of type PERSON using HATE on object also of type PERSON". Syntactically, this is correct. But to take another example, you can add complexity: "Group of poorly-educated middle class 17 year old anglo-saxon males brutally attack 19 year old african-american woman and her life partner of eastern european descent", which may also be correct. However, in order to apply the labels you are so fond of, you have to generalise that a little bit, to "white males attack lesbian couples", which is NOT syntactically correct. That's not what happened. It's not what's happening. That is not how you should generalise something. That is you, spinning a story to fit how you want to hear it happened, and in such a way that you can sell it to others and have your opinion and possibly your ego validated. It is not morally right or logically correct. And it causes problems, because you start picking over the details, grouping people constantly, sub grouping and subgrouping until people start quoting the whole "and then they came for me, and there was noone to speak up for me" thing. And all it would take is a *flip* of the world's hierarchies and all that talk you make now would be causing the problems then.

Generalising it properly is a smooth solution. People are always people. That is a truth. People will always find it in them to hate someone based on their differences, that is also a truth. These two truths apply to any combination of factors, whether that's race, religion, hair colour, skin colour, whatever. It also means that yes, white people can be judged. It can logically happen. Whether it does or not in reality is up to you but it does not change the truth of the statement.
And as part of the "complexity" group, you have people who do pick on the little things. The grammar, the "motives", the verbs and pronouns used, when in general it is the message that remains. These are the people who will complain that you can't be racist to white people, or that white people can't be racist to white people and black people can't be racist to black people, due to some definition in some dictionary (which they may or may not actually provide, by the way). But that DOESN'T MATTER when the point remains! Let me tell you something! I am a white male and I have *felt* racism! It may or may not have been the kind that others have felt, maybe not as common as what you have felt or as virulent, but it was what ME and what MY SOCIETY defines as racism! It can't be argued against based on a technicality! And you know what else? I have *thought* racism! I have! I hate it, but I have. It is human. It is human to instinctively distrust someone who looks different and it is human to feel anger towards a specific group of people for their ancestor's misdeeds. Those are not good things or right things but they are human things and they should be understood, but not condoned. But nevertheless, where I am we call that racism. I don't think that's particularly unfair.

And then I tell you that I was referring to the English, and I'm Irish, and all of a sudden Tumblr flips it's collective shit, because we're all white and, among other things: white people can't claim racism, it's insulting to the people of different races who helped out the Irish in the past to claim it's racist, (thanks for referencing that point by the way, all those non-existent wikipedia links to helpful nations in times of famine sure were helpful), Irish is not a race, Irish did not have it as bad as other countries, the troubles during the famine were not race-based, and also, yeah, we're white.

This is just one specific example of the kind of stuff I'm talking about. This watering-down of terms, making them flexible and arguable in any context, the arguments about the specifics, or the blatant dismissal of the generality that hate is hate and hating people based on anything is wrong.

And on a personal note, it is wrong. To us, it was racism. In our society during the famine, there were no Asian or African immigrants. Only us, and the English, existed in out society then, and we were brutalised because we were Irish. Seen as "subhuman". As barbarians. That we deserved to be mistreated, and that the son of an Irishman would always be as bad as his farther. In art, we were depicted as caricatures, heavy brows, unintelligent, jutting jaws, darker, not-white, redder skin: monkeylike, far unlike the visage of an aristocratic Englishman. It was deliberate, it was cruel, it was often unthinking and arrogant, it was not based purely on religion, and it was racism. Nobody cared that we shared genetic roots. Nobody argued over the definition or "Irish" or the definition of "race". It was cruel and wrong and it is cruel and wrong for me to judge an English person nowadays based on the fact that some group in the past shared some label I apply to them when really we are not different. And that is what I have happen to me when I go to Tumblr.

And it's not fair, and I'm not going to try arguing. It's like spitting in the ocean.
(this is what I was referring to, by the way. I do appreciate the obvious violence and rejection of any kind of rational argument in it. It makes my points easier to argue.)
http://red3blog.tumblr.com/post/55092706741/no-white-people-cant-be-victims-of-racism-no#notes


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Re: General chat: Talk about literally anything because you do anyway.

Post by Captain on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:22 pm

Wait so you're drawing shit Dee? That would be so cool, iirc your art is the literal bees knees.

leme add my onion.:
This is why I'm gradually starting to get angry over tumblr. Because people have actively changed it. Tumblr is a fuckin BLOGGING site. When it started, it emphasised ARTISTS. ARTISTS. PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SHOW THEIR ART. And tumblr is no longer and art blogging website for creators to show their creations. It has evolved past that. Some of it is positive, in my opinion. Art lends itself well to photography, so people take pictures of cute animals because it's their art. This turns into funny pics of animals until the general internet's attraction to funny animals doing funny things starts to come into play as well, which then turns itself into a general funny stuff site. That's fine. That's what I use tumblr for. I use it when I'm bored, and just wanna laugh at some funny things, and look at some art. That's MY deifnition of tumblr.

But then you also have another branch stemming from the art. You have the fandoms. Fandoms are great things, it's brilliant that people can get together and share the love for their fandom. But I do kinda feel like fandoms sometimes go overboard. And that's not cool.

But the final evolution of tumblr's original aim (the current things that define tumblr, for reference, in my opinion, are art, funny things, cute thing, fandoms and this next point) is, of course, the social justice side. From a purely personal point of view, I despise this side of tumblr. For someone like me who wants a simple couple of innocent laughs at some funny gifs and jokes, it's the antithesis of what I want on my dash. And yet I see it like ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Now I don't mind seeing something once. There is merit for me to see this stuff. Because it makes me a little more aware of the was I treat people around me in society. Each time I first see an issue being raised, it does improve me a little as a person I think. And equally, I do think it's a good thing that tumblr is a place where people of colour, or LGBTQA (etc) people, can meet and discuss what is wrong with the way they are treated. You only improve stuff for yourself if you do that. But what I take issue with is the constant, unrelenting tidal barrage of social justice that appears on my dash. There are some posts that appear that i have seen FIVE DIFFERENT TIMES NOW. AND EACH TIME, IT WAS ON MY DASH FROM LIKE TEN PEOPLE (admittedly, maybe following all my friends who also follow eachother and reblog from eachother isn't the best idea, but I digress). The fact that I've seen the same post again and again is just TIRING. I don't need to see it again. I've already seen it. It's served it's purpose for me. In fact, seeing it this many times is more likely to turn me the OTHER way and make me resentful of who you are. No matter how nice a person is (and I don't consider myself to be massively that kinda a person btw) there is only so much they can take of themselves being referred to as "scum" or in need of dying. And yes, this is what you go through every day. Yes, I fucking know that. Of course I do. I am well aware of that from the tsunami of shit I get already. Do you think I want it to be that way? No, of course I fucking don't! Is it going to change soon? Probably not! These issues take TIME to change. Sexism is still not fucking dead! Neither is Racism! These are issues that have both been around for at least 50 years SINCE they were supposed to be abolished! Do I try to make a difference where I can by politely trying to change peoples's opinions and tell them when they've said something offensive? YES, I TRY. I don't do it all the time, especially for people who outright are just not receptive to it at all and would likely hate me and treat ME badly just for supporting you, but I TRY. And that's the best I can do. I'm not in government and I don't want to ever be, so I'm never going to be able to make these gigantic changes. All I can do is just help in small ways. Which I do.

So yeah. Getting sick of your bullshit, tumblr social justice.
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:25 pm

Yeah, the SJW crowd is part of why I'm probably never going to get a tumblr. That and the insane fangirls. I actually frequent this one subreddit, /r/TumblrInAction, that's devoted to making fun of the SJW's and pointing out their hypocrisy and logical fallacies. The community's actually pretty sympathetic to legitimate social justice and will usually mock the extremists on both sides (e.g. radical feminists and their counterparts in the MRA movement). This video might give y'all a bit of catharsis.
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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:37 pm

d_what wrote:Hm. I forgot to ask about moons. I'm definitely Derse. Definitely definitely. There is not even a question about it. Which kinda sucks because the VERY LARGE majority of my coplayers are all Prospit dreamers :(I know because we did the tests. SO BORING.

So anyway. Does anybody want me to draw individual Weaponkinds for them? Sometimes they're fun to do. Depends on the weapon.
(Okay TBH I'm probably not gonna actually do it. I don't actually have time to draw much at all lately. But NEVERTHELESS if a really cool idea comes along I may not be able to help myself, hence the 5-min USMLS M2 I did yesterday before I went to bed.)(Random ideas are best)(To that end, everybody post 3 suggestions for alchemised versions of another poster's Weaponkind)
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Captain, I think you get the Willbreaker - a large, black glass hammer made with the Ink of Squid Pro Quo. It's got a curly feather for decoration, red melted wax on the hilt, and the hammer part itself is made of the base of a giant ink container. Doesn't actually shatter on contact with anything, but the damage it does would make it seem like it has.
Spark, you made the Catherine 'Rang. It's a gunpowder-scented boomerang that ignites on being thrown and spins wildly while throwing off sparks. (wow that sure was a coincidence just there.) It makes weaker enemies explode into fragments on contact with them in a pretty fireworks display!
And OJ, you get the BlackPack, a deck of cards also made with the Ink of Squid Pro Quo. They slow down in mid-air moments before hitting their targets, and creepily melt their way into the foe's body, causing extended spacey-poison damage. They're really slick and shiny to touch, like black plastic card sleeves.

All of these are just bonus items probably. As in, items you alchemise during a binge and try out once or twice but never actually use properly, certainly not in key battles. Unless you want to I suppose.
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iT makes his triumphant return after being gone like two days!! I would like one of these yes, although my primary weapon will always be the Alchemiswords, because they're fucking awesome. (Swords combined with the alchemiter itself. Alchemize stupid shit whenever, wherever. Also instant weapon upgrades, which is a bonus.) (also in forumstuck i alchemized them with myself back when i was knight of doom and made the Royal Alchemiswords of Magic Fuckin' Doom, which were basically awesome and op in every way possible)

Title: Prince of Breath

Land: Land of Night and Stall. A heavily fortified, militaristic Land. Consort chameleons form armed militias and fight back against the Denizen Typheus, who is causing endless night. It never seems to go well.

Dream Planet: Derse. Very very Derse.

strife specibus: 2xBladekind, because what's cooler than a badass sword? Two badass swords.

Fetch Modus: Security. A very basic fetch modus, similar to the wallet but not as ridiculous. It has added security features tho, so whenever you lose an item (lose being defined as "removed unwillingly, too far away, or stolen), it is instantly re-captchalogued. It's very practical and absurdly easy to weaponise with. (Captchalogue something deadly, pick up another deadly thing, first deadly thing is forced out and goes flying. First thing is recaptcha'd by the security system, second one is forced out and goes flying. It'll repeat like that automatically.

Denizen: Typheus. Um, duh.
  
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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Sun Mar 30, 2014 8:58 pm

[quote=pretty much everyone]SJW shit[/quote]



Hold the fuck up a second, I'm a SJW.

Since first making friends irl with a trans person, i have become very involved in SJW stuff, and I can tell you right now that a big part of the reason no one takes them seriously is that they simply misunderstand what we are talking about??? Try and hear me out here

i promise this isnt going to be crazy long:
D, that post you linked above is a horrible example of SJW stuff. Whoever wrote that post is an asshole and also completely wrong because white racism exists. What doesn't exist is American white racism. As in, rich cis het white people who live in America. Hate exists for them, but it's justified because the white dudes are the ones who are doing the hating, if that makes sense?? It's the same deal with cisphobia/heterophobia. Like, if you're oppressing someone that badly it's only natural they're going to dislike you?? There's a huge-ass difference between hating one's oppressors and hating someone for no good reason.

Ok but that was a sidetrack the big point im trying to make here is that the people who make themselves known as stereotypical SJWs (like kankri) are usually complete morons/assholes who don't know what they're talking about. Trigger warnings are there to warn people about potentially offensive things, it isn't like you need to tag everything you put out, and you don't need to go crazy with the privilege-checking. Privilege-checking isn't even really a thing. It's just like "check yourself before you say something stupid." Basically there's a difference between what you people are probably thinking of as "SJW's" and actual ones. We're pretty chill generally, unless someone fucks up bad.

Then we kill you and sell your entrails to social justice blood cults.

So hopefully i may've have improved your opinions about sj people? Maybe?? Im really shit at this whole persuasive writing thing haha
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:42 pm

invisibleTerrarium wrote:So hopefully i may've have improved your opinions about sj people? Maybe?? Im really shit at this whole persuasive writing thing haha

Not so much? Let's take the issue of gay rights as an example. I happen to be gay, which means I do have certain disadvantages in society. Do I automatically hate straight people for this? No, because I know that most of them aren't actively or consciously doing anything anti-gay. Do I hate homophobes? Well duh, because they're the problem! Is alienating the straight population a smart idea for the LGB community if we want equality? Considering we're not a big enough demographic to create enough political leverage by ourselves, it's one of the dumbest ideas we could possibly have. Are there people on tumblr and in the SJW community who think hating on straight people regardless of their actual behavior is acceptable? Yes, and it sickens me. If you're hating people for belonging to a particular demographic instead of being a scumbag, you're a terrible person.

Also, one note about terminology: I usually refer to the sane, reasonable people who fight for social justice as social justice activists. SJW refers exclusively to the hypocritical crazies.
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Post by Hanky Panky on Sun Mar 30, 2014 9:55 pm

I don't understand all the insanity that tumblr is.

like, i just think that every human being, regardless of what color your skin is, or whether you have a penis or a vagina, or your sexuality, all inclusive of all of them there special pronouns, whether or not you're an asshole, or a racist, or sexist, or have three legs, or no legs, or a genetic deficiency, or autism, or you're a disgusting un-american parasite because you're poor, or you're part of the billionaire master race that controls 'Murika, or anything. everybody should be placed on equal ground and respected equally. But first i want to roll up a newspaper and thwap the racist and sexist and homophobic people a few times like misbehaving animals. then maybe i'll respect them. only maybe though.

but if they piss on the carpet one more time.....

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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:00 pm

cephalopodAscendant wrote:
invisibleTerrarium wrote:So hopefully i may've have improved your opinions about sj people? Maybe?? Im really shit at this whole persuasive writing thing haha

Not so much? Let's take the issue of gay rights as an example. I happen to be gay, which means I do have certain disadvantages in society. Do I automatically hate straight people for this? No, because I know that most of them aren't actively or consciously doing anything anti-gay. Do I hate homophobes? Well duh, because they're the problem! Is alienating the straight population a smart idea for the LGB community if we want equality? Considering we're not a big enough demographic to create enough political leverage by ourselves, it's one of the dumbest ideas we could possibly have. Are there people on tumblr and in the SJW community who think hating on straight people regardless of their actual behavior is acceptable? Yes, and it sickens me. If you're hating people for belonging to a particular demographic instead of being a scumbag, you're a terrible person.

Also, one note about terminology: I usually refer to the sane, reasonable people who fight for social justice as social justice activists. SJW refers exclusively to the hypocritical crazies.

I never said that LGB people hate all het people. LGB people who hate all het people are gross fuckheads. I actually did specify hating one's oppressors, and if I came across like that, I apologise.

As I mentioned I'm absolute shit at this whole being persuasive thing haha it's like half the reason i left tumblr
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Post by Spark Eletran on Sun Mar 30, 2014 10:09 pm

i agree completely with what ca said
i mean yes its... kind of understandable people would be scared of white/hetero/cis people after being opressed
does that mean its okay to hate literally all of them and that basically the solution to all of this is to turn society on its head and reverse who the hate goes to? hell no
i saw a post that explained it pretty well, people say that white/cis/heteros should just take it because thats not even nearly as bad as what the opressed group had to go through, and while that's true (they dont have to deal with risk of murder just by existing and all), it doesn't mean hating on them is completely harmless and doesn't affect anyone???? like, specially people with self-confidence issues and mental illnesses such as depression, which, lets be honest, are specially common these days and even more on the internet. those people are VERY MUCH affected by that, and even if they're incredibly good and kind and nice people, that does not stop them from just irrationally hating themselves, which... that hate doesn't exactly help
you can sum it up with "jesus fucking christ when will people realize that hate in general is bad no matter who is it directed to"

EDIT: oh i was ninja'd WELL I DIDN'T WRITE THIS SHIT FOR NOTHING SO I'M STILL POSTING IT IDEC
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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:05 pm

The above is accurate.

But hey, let's move on from this rather depressing topic and talk about something more fun.
Like Mario and Luigi: Dream Team.
Hands up, who's played it?
(Pls no spoilers im still in somnom woods)
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:11 pm

You're a fair ways in, then. I've already beat the game, so I have no fear of spoilers, but obviously I won't give anything away. Speaking of the M&L series, I'm so excited that Superstar Saga's coming out on Virtual Console in a couple days. It's the only one I haven't played (or beaten, obviously) yet, and I've been wanting to play it since before Dream Team came out.
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Post by Spark Eletran on Sun Mar 30, 2014 11:37 pm

duuude dream teams so good
at first i was like "eh???" because the graphics looked 3d and weird
then i got used to them
and now i realize theyre like the most beautiful sprites ever
i love that game
and i love the final boss too
You're gonna see it when you get there IT
It doesn't disappoint
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:13 am

Neither does its battle music.
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Post by Spark Eletran on Mon Mar 31, 2014 12:38 am

okay, guys
i just learned nelly owns dokapon kingdom
i can already see were not gonna be dating for long after we meet up
that games like statistically proven to ruin more friendships than mario party
were so screwed
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Post by kotakun on Mon Mar 31, 2014 1:05 am

if its worse than mario party than just play mario party
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Post by d_what on Mon Mar 31, 2014 4:03 am

Whoosh. Even seeing that those posts exist was cathartic. Thanks, guys.

I had Mario Party 8 for the Wii; it was actually my first (and only, for quite a bit) wii game. Worst mistake ever. It wasn't bad, but it was... constantly really really frustrating. I'm not sure if "fun" describes it properly. The minigames were decent but I won't play a game I spent 40 euros on just for minigames.

Then I got Galaxy and Brawl and everything was SWEEEEEET

My mom got me a second hand copy of M&L Partners in Time, but... Yeah I really don't like it. It was awkward and complicated and I kept running into bits I wasn't allowed to do until later and it was slow to play and all in all I just said "if I wanted to play Pokemon, I'd play Pokemon. If I wanted to play Mario, I'd play Mario." But that's just my opinion. I don't like the LoZ series either but I completely respect those that do.

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Post by Captain on Mon Mar 31, 2014 9:54 am

Hey Dee, WE GOT AN EVENT Very Happy

Magmar with Magmariser (X) or Electabuzz with Electiriser or we it is (Y). Pick it up from GAME from the 4th of April.
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Post by d_what on Mon Mar 31, 2014 10:18 am

They don't have GAME here anymore Sad They were losing business to gamestop and sold out about two, three years ago. It sucks because now Gamestop are a monopoly Sad Ehhh it's alright though because it's not a hugely important event. I'd be pissed if we missed the version exclusive Charizardite event.

By-the-by, events have been MISERABLE in XY so far. Beats me why they can't do bi-monthly things like they do in Japan. Even BW was okay; we got the event version exclusive Dragons, and the TCG Mewtwo and Darkrai. And Genesect I think, or was that Keldeo? I dunno I never redeem my legends :/

In any case even when Game existed here the only event we EVER got was Shaymin back in gen-4, and that was only in one store in the country. Not part of the UK, see. Nobody here cares Sad

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