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Post by d_what on Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:34 pm

Actually that's a point. While I can see Alakazam using Spychick Majykk Aurorars, well... Why can't it do it already Neutral mind you there are loads of movepool anomalies like that so it's not really a problem.

And I know, OJ :F that's why I meant what I said about Toxicroak!
And anyway it's naive to think Pokemon aren't designed and redesigned without reference to a metagame. Not the OU one, just a free-for-all metagame. Very rarely do GF give a Pokemon. EVERYTHING it wants. *coughcoughgarchompexcadrillterrakion* Presumably (I hope) because they know better. Otherwise, Rapid Spin on Ferrothorn and Spore on EVERYTHING!!!!

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Post by OverlordJ on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:01 pm

tinning3 wrote:How is it a fitting flavour? It's A: A fighting move and thus weak to psychic which Alakazam primarily is, and B: only used by other pokémon who could are either dedicated to aura reading such as lucario, practitioners of martial arts and thus use aura as a fighting style or meditation like mienfoo, or personifications of time/ space/ antimatter, and akin to Gods. Alakazam wouldn't fit having aura sphere in lore, unless this is a different flavour you're talking about.

OverlordJ wrote:I'm saying that Aura Sphere is based on an idea similar to Focus Blast and I'd love it if Alakazam could learn Aura Sphere, it feels fitting flavour wise and it'd make it much stronger.

In case you didn't know: Alakazam can learn Focus Blast, an attack based on the idea of using ones "Chi" to attack an opponent. Aura Sphere is based on a VERY similar concept, so saying that a Pokemon that can learn Focus Blast feels fitting to be able to learn Aura Sphere is really no big stretch

Mind you, the only Poemon who can learn Aura Sphere but CAN'T learn Focus Blast are Togekiss, Dialga and Giratina.

That reminds me, why the hell can Togekiss learn Aura Sphere?
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Post by tinning3 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:16 pm

Okay I had the same thought about togekiss, but then togekissis just a wierd pokemon in general.

And okay cAs +OverlordJs arguement up there makes a good point in that movepools are sometimes wierd. Aura sphere is at least somewhat (togekiss notwithstanding) consistent though.
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Post by Dregadude on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:18 pm

OverlordJ wrote:Mind you, the only Poemon who can learn Aura Sphere but CAN'T learn Focus Blast are Togekiss, Dialga and Giratina.

That reminds me, why the hell can Togekiss learn Aura Sphere?

This was my question from the start. It makes Togekiss way more useful than it deserves to be.

stupid flying prick
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Post by tinning3 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:20 pm

What was wrong with Togetic as the last stage, thier head was wierd and all but least I was happy with that as the final stage of evolution. It goes from pencil neck to no neck.
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Post by d_what on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:22 pm

Because Togekiss is a fairy (...well probably) with special untapped potential! TBH out of 649 pokemon, so many of them will have aura powers, why not Togekiss?

And metagame wise it really, really needs it. I take it you've been parahaxed once too often, Drega? Or do you object to the fact that it looks like and is about as aerodynamic as, a flying double-decker bus?

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Post by NinteNerd on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:30 pm

Dregadude wrote:
stupid flying prick
y u say dis abut my babby
i luv him
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Post by Dregadude on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:31 pm

d_what wrote:Because Togekiss is a fairy (...well probably) with special untapped potential! TBH out of 649 pokemon, so many of them will have aura powers, why not Togekiss?

And metagame wise it really, really needs it. I take it you've been parahaxed once too often, Drega? Or do you object to the fact that it looks like and is about as aerodynamic as, a flying double-decker bus?

Both. It's a dumb design and it's stupid and I hate it and want it to die. >:C

NinteNerd wrote:
Dregadude wrote:
stupid flying prick
y u say dis abut my babby
i luv him

STFU
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Post by OverlordJ on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:33 pm

Guys, for the discussion about Alakazam I took a closer look at it's possible movepools through the different gens. I knew that Alakazam had quite a few phsical attacks, I just didn't realize how MUCH it likes hitting stuff. A little odd for a psychic type.

Gen 1:
Via TM:
Mega Punch
Mega Kick
Body Slam
Take Down
Double-Edge
Submission
Counter
Seismic Toss
Rage
Skull Bash
(I was also surprised that it could learn Dig back then but that's a different point)
Gen 2:
Via TM:
DynamicPunch
Headbutt
Ice Punch
ThunderPunch
Fire Punch
(Mind you that the elemental punches were special moves until 4th gen)
Gen 3:
Via TM:
Focus Punch
Iron Tail (Even without a tail as Alakazam)
Via Breeding:
Ice Punch
ThunderPunch
Fire Punch
Gen 4:
Via TM:
Focus Punch
Iron Tail
Focus Blast (Just to remind you)
Drain Punch
Giga Impact
Via Breeding:
Ice Punch
ThunderPunch
Fire Punch
Gen 5:
Via TM:
Focus Blast
Giga Impact
Via Breeding:
Ice Punch
ThunderPunch
Fire Punch

So while Alakazam gets less physical moves every gen, it still seemed funny to me how many punching moves it can learn.
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Post by NinteNerd on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:40 pm

can we both agree togekiss looks infinitely better than togetic, at least?
Spoiler:
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW~
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Post by Dregadude on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:45 pm

NinteNerd wrote:can we both agree togekiss looks infinitely better than togetic, at least?
Spoiler:
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW~

I guess so. The whole evolution line seems dumb to me, but there were a lot of stupid things that came out of Gen II.
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Post by d_what on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:54 pm

Wait guys we are totally side tracked. This is completely the wrong thread! Everybody jump ship!
(Where are spark and miscombob when you need them)

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Post by phantasmalDexterity on Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:58 pm

NinteNerd wrote:can we both agree togekiss looks infinitely better than togetic, at least?
Wat r u talking about??? Togetic is my baboo.
Spoiler:


Spoiler:
But that togekiss drawing is kickass.
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Post by Gelatino on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:00 pm

I can't believe anybody would say the togepi line is dumb

Those guys are one of my favorites
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Post by OverlordJ on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:02 pm

NinteNerd wrote:can we both agree togekiss looks infinitely better than togetic, at least?
Spoiler:
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW~

No, sorry. I personally think that Togepis line lookes worse the further it evolves.

Togepi looks like a cute little egg thingy.

Togetic looks like an okay looking fairy thingy.

Togekiss looks like the bastard son of a beheaded bird and a flying egg. It reminds me of a certain kind of monster that looks like a normal bird but has actually a giant mouth on it's body. I am not 100% sure why but none the less, I think it's the most ugly out of its line of evolution.
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Post by PunchesMalone on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:09 pm

Oh no ARGUMENTS
To me it seems like Togekiss is more what Togepi looks like it should evolve into. I've never really liked Togetic much but I like the other two.
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Post by Gelatino on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:20 pm

I really like the togepi line. All of them look cool. Togetic looks like an awesome dinosaur thing, and Togekiss is like a nice fluffy bird or something. I actually have no idea what it's supposed to be but I love its shape. I don't care what people say; I like a lot of evolutions introduced in gen IV
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Post by Dregadude on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:21 pm

Gelatino wrote:I really like the togepi line.  All of them look cool.  Togetic looks like an awesome dinosaur thing, and Togekiss is like a nice fluffy bird or something.  I actually have no idea what it's supposed to be but I love its shape.  I don't care what people say; I like a lot of evolutions introduced in gen IV

Yeah I liked those evolutions too but Togekiss just stands out as the worst to me. The rest are all awesome.
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Post by OverlordJ on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:26 pm

PunchesMalone wrote:Oh no ARGUMENTS
To me it seems like Togekiss is more what Togepi looks like it should evolve into. I've never really liked Togetic much but I like the other two.

I think we were supposed to move this to the other thread, sorry I posted this here...
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Post by d_what on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:52 pm

Yes or else I will lock this thread until October!!
Aaaah a magnemite!!!

Oh no I wasn't supposed to warn you first!!!
Must lock thread immediately!!!
*locked*

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Post by Dregadude on Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:58 pm

d_what wrote:Yes or else I will lock this thread until October!!
Aaaah a magnemite!!!

Oh no I wasn't supposed to warn you first!!!
Must lock thread immediately!!!
*locked*

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Post by Gelatino on Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:35 pm

especially when the fire is ten miles away
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Post by Spark Eletran on Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:53 pm

d_what wrote:
(Where are spark and miscombob when you need them)

I WAS SLEEPING THAT'S WHERE mspa

my day and night cycle is now completely fucked up

ANYWAYS toge like is not bad i guess i mean i don't really dislike ANY pokémon??? as in, not design-wise at least, i think they all look good

but like actually hate an individual pokémon well i still hate belle sooooo mspa

Sooo what do you guys think about the rumors that there'll be another Eeveelution (A "Toxeon" more specifically)
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Post by tinning3 on Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:55 pm

I like bees, I have no problem with this. Where are these rumours floating around?
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Post by d_what on Mon Jul 22, 2013 7:08 pm

They had me right up until Toxeon. Having a second one would be totally pointless, it'd be... Luigi. Plus also laaaaaaame. We have enough eeveelutions thanks.

Spark, Belle wants you to know she's very sorry. She didn't mean to hurt your Fulgur's feelings at all, she simply underestimated her own strength. She says if you give her another chance to battle she'll be sure to HIT HIM SO HARD HIS FUR FALLS OFF!! Love, Belle <3


Bees are freaking awesome. I love bees. Except non-native invaders like the African killer bee. I also don't like it because it's a killer. TMYK.

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