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Post by Hytheter on Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:18 pm

Yeah its not the game itself, its the system. I'm sure someone will get it eventually though.
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Post by Hanky Panky on Sun Nov 24, 2013 11:33 pm

that one guy had to solder something hardware in order to get the info that he leaked. which was probably hella dangerous. well, for the system.

i'm fine with it being like this though because it reminds me of the days before the internet was so ubiquitous. like when GSC was new and people still brewed their own MTG decks because netdecking and online sales weren't things.

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Post by NinteNerd on Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:12 am

an underwater volcano.
how on earth did i not think of that being volcanion's basis?!
related:
additional latios/as megas info:

megalatios gets adaptability
megalatias becomes dragon/fairy and gets multiscale
DRAGONS IMMUNE TO DRAGONS
latios might also be dragon/fairy; i don't remember.


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Re: General chat: Who needs mspaf anyway

Post by d_what on Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:33 am

Mega Gengar does not have counters 

Mega Gengar does not have counters

Mega Gengar does not have counters
If being used properly,
The point that you send in your psychic type is right after it's already KO'd one or your Pokemon. At BEST it can be revenge killed and it still has access to Substitute and Priority.
It is NOT an impressive sweeper.

And there are more people complaining about MKanga than there are MGengar. Probably down to its awesome coverage, ease of setting up and crazy bulk. Also Priority. Anything Steel you switch in to take Return or something will be mauled by PuP. Ghosts likewise by Crunch or Sucker Punch, depending on the move selection. Best case scenario is a quick status user IMO.  It has very few counters. Has more checks but often only after it's already KO'd something.

As for the other two, I don't thing Aegislash is Ubers-strong but that's never been the qualifier. Currently, what it IS is fun to use, fun to play against and prepare for, very reliable, varied and also more centralising than the weather wars. THAT's what would make it go Uber. (Ubers is a banlist, not a gauge of power.) But people like it so I can't see it happening.
Lucario is just a great example of Power Creep, good thing it's so frail. It'll get better after bank though - Ice Punch gives better SE coverage and removes some of its counters to boot. After we lose some of the more obvious guys it might end up being pretty centralising.
...on the one hand, I want Bank so we can use older Pokemon and tutor moves. On the other hand, I like how this meta is relatively legend-free... Ugggh Landorus/Celebi/Terrakion/Heatran cores again Blehhh

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Re: General chat: Who needs mspaf anyway

Post by OverlordJ on Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:27 am

Hanky Panky wrote:i'm fine with it being like this though because it reminds me of the days before the internet was so ubiquitous. like when GSC was new and people still brewed their own MTG decks because netdecking and online sales weren't things.
Oh man, I remember those days.

Heck, I still do the MTG thing.

Now I really want to play Crytal again. I really should buy heartgold/soulsilver, shouldn't I?
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Post by Hytheter on Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:44 am

OverlordJ wrote:I really should buy heartgold/soulsilver, shouldn't I?
Abso-fucking-lutely.
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Re: General chat: Who needs mspaf anyway

Post by invisibleTerrarium on Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:01 am

MGengar's one real counter is MGardevoir, which can take one of its hits and oneshot it in return.
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Post by Xaber on Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:30 am

A counter is something that can switch into a Pokemon and KO it or force t out at any time. Since MGengar has Shadow Tag, you can't switch into it. Even without that, MGardevior is a shaky check to Gengar, since it's outspend and 2HKOed so cannot switch in. It also lacks recovery, so Gengar can just switch out and come back in later.
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Re: General chat: Who needs mspaf anyway

Post by NinteNerd on Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:27 pm

Hytheter wrote:
OverlordJ wrote:I really should buy heartgold/soulsilver, shouldn't I?
Abso-fucking-lutely.
this.
...also, this!


...or play Vietnamese Crystal.
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Post by OverlordJ on Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:05 pm

Speaking of that:

I found someone who had an old Black game and allowed me to trade some of his event legendaries back and forth, so that I could have them in my dex

When I noticed he only had a (japanese or chinese or something) Zoroark and no Zorua I asked if it was okay for me to go and quickly get an egg from it. I got the egg pretty quickly and put it in the box for a bit, finishing some trades.

I later hatched the Zorua.

Guess what.

Very Happy 
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Post by phantasmalDexterity on Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:19 pm

You lucky dawg. }:D

Wait. I thought you couldn't wifi.
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Post by kotakun on Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:23 pm

the zoroark was actually a different pokemon and so you got something else when you hatched? and said hatchling turned out to have been corrupted by the pokedevil and swore vengeance against the world and then destroyed everything? but before it did it saved you for last so you could witness all the horrors that it caused upon the world?
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Post by phantasmalDexterity on Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:25 pm

kotakun you beautiful person
never change
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Post by OverlordJ on Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:25 pm

Yeah, that was so freaking lucky, I still can hardly believe it.

Also, does trading need wifi?

Because he told me what to do for the trading, I just did what he said.

Do you need wifi if you trade via talking to the person on the very left in the Pokemon Center?

Ninja'd by Kotakun:

...

What?
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Post by phantasmalDexterity on Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:31 pm

I never used the left person, only the right and the middle. But unless you were in the same room and were using the infrared connection then it was wifi connection. Did this transaction happen irl?
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Post by OverlordJ on Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:34 pm

Yes, it happened IRL

When I said found I meant "One of the guys I'm studying with who I'm working on a project with"

We were sitting next to eachother while the tradin happened.
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Post by phantasmalDexterity on Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:39 pm

Okay.
Good for you. I've never met another pokemon fan irl. The only people I know of live way too far.

Shiny Zorua looks really cool. Just like Shiny Gigalith.
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Post by OverlordJ on Mon Nov 25, 2013 2:43 pm

Indeed, Shiny Zorua is one of my favourite shinies actually, making this, like, even better~

In case you couldn't tell, I'm freaking excited~
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Post by NinteNerd on Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:38 pm

phantasmalDexterity wrote:Okay.
Good for you. I've never met another pokemon fan irl. The only people I know of live way too far.
how even
where do you live??
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Post by kotakun on Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:43 pm

OverlordJ wrote:Ninja'd by Kotakun:

...

What?
come on that was clear as mud encased in concrete
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Post by phantasmalDexterity on Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:34 pm

NinteNerd wrote:
phantasmalDexterity wrote:Okay.
Good for you. I've never met another pokemon fan irl. The only people I know of live way too far.
how even
where do you live??
Hungary. Nintendo is simply not very popular here for various reasons (PS is winning). + I live furthest from the capital as possible. I'm sure there are a few pokemon fans in my town as well (because law of large numbers) but I'd never got to meet them.
At least not ones with DSs.
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Post by d_what on Mon Nov 25, 2013 5:43 pm

I didn't know you lived in Hungary!

Okay if I'm honest I didn't know anybody lived in Hungary. It's just never come up.
Wow.
Go figure.
*toots Hungarian national anthem*

OH SHIT WAIT I KNOW ONE THING ABOUT HUNGARY
Spoiler:
you have a really great quidditch team!

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Post by phantasmalDexterity on Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:02 pm

I think I may have mentioned it a few times. Maybe.
d_what wrote:Okay if I'm honest I didn't know anybody lived in Hungary.
Heh. Indeed, nobody lives here, this country is just a figment of your collective imagination.

Spoiler:
Everyday I'm amazed by the fact that my country still exists and didn't implode during the night.
Wow.
Go figure.
*toots Hungarian national anthem*
meh, our anthem sucks. (or maybe I'm just tired of it Neutral)
*goes to listen to the irish anthem*
OH SHIT WAIT I KNOW ONE THING ABOUT HUNGARY
Spoiler:
you have a really great quidditch team!
shame on you. forgetting about something more important
Spoiler:
Hungarian horntail.
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:23 pm

Whoa, pD, you're Hungarian? I'm pretty sure none of us knew this.
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Post by Hanky Panky on Mon Nov 25, 2013 10:49 pm

No, he's hungry.

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