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Post by Dregadude on Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:52 pm

And here I thought it was just me being unable to read. I swear, I transferred four boxes over to Y, and I didn't ever do it with the right game card in the first time.
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Post by Hanky Panky on Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:22 pm

That's what I did, too. It's pretty obtuse. my pattern was "transfer box 1 to bank; transfer pokes to box 1; transfer bank box to Y version; start at step 1 again"

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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:01 pm

Okay, so a couple of my friends and I have started doing a weekly video games/nerdy stuff radio show. Check it out here if you're interested: it runs from 7-9PM every Wednesday (that's in one hour).
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Post by Hanky Panky on Wed Feb 12, 2014 11:13 pm

i was about to ask whether or not the snow affected your classes but you live in the middle of the mountains

where it snows a lot more often than the Triangle area.

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Re: General chat: Who needs mspaf anyway

Post by NinteNerd on Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:40 am

cephalopodAscendant wrote:
Yo. According to Bulbapedia, critical hits have ignored detrimental stat stages since Gen II (technically Gen II worked slightly differently, but there was the same intent behind it).
oh, so there's not anything drastically different, the ratio just scales weirdly now.

man every time i read articles and stuff containing gen1 i see the phrase "but due to a glitch"
anway, i misinterpreted what you said there, D_what; i took it to mean 'no stat recoil if a crit lands'.
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Post by NinteNerd on Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:02 am

do you know what also sucks about pokebank [besides the convoluted transfer method]?

it doesn't tell you about internet connection problems until you go to save and quit.

I SPENT TWO HOURS ORGANIZING MY LIVING DEX
TWO HOURS TO GET EVERYTHING INTO POSITION, AND THEN
'SERVER ERROR'
AND EVERYTHING MOVED BACK
also i'm at 610 with everything transferred. a lot of it is just more links in the same evolutionary line to acquire.
how on earth do i have graveler and golem but not geodude
alakazam and abra but no kadabra.
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:14 am

To answer your unstated question, HP, classes were cancelled today and tomorrow. We got a ton of snow. And I do live in the Triangle; I just go to college in Asheville. And NN, I've somehow seen Roggenrola and Gigalith, but not Boldore.
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Post by ilikeoctopus on Thu Feb 13, 2014 1:50 pm

Well, I'm snowed in! Which means that Pokebank time, finally.
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Post by Hanky Panky on Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:06 pm

cephalopodAscendant wrote:To answer your unstated question, HP, classes were cancelled today and tomorrow. We got a ton of snow. And I do live in the Triangle; I just go to college in Asheville. And NN, I've somehow seen Roggenrola and Gigalith, but not Boldore.

I know you live in the triangle. That's why I said you were in Asheville, because yesterday was during the spring semester and not a break. Razz

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Re: General chat: Who needs mspaf anyway

Post by cephalopodAscendant on Thu Feb 13, 2014 2:43 pm

You said "you live in the middle of the mountains". Easy to see how that might have been misinterpreted?
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Post by Hanky Panky on Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:59 pm

okay. you live there during the school year.

just like i said i lived in wilmington while i was in school at uncw.

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Post by d_what on Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:48 pm

I live down that side road over the bridge, y'know, the one that goes to bird hill but before that
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Since we're all being technical and whatnot.

So guys. EVOLUTION. How is everyone on evolution? The Darwin kind, and not the... More obviously related... Pokemon kind.

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Re: General chat: Who needs mspaf anyway

Post by OverlordJ on Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:04 pm

What do you mean d?
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Post by tinning3 on Thu Feb 13, 2014 5:58 pm

I've never actually heard/ read any of the arguments against evolution (and I mean by real scientists who know what they're talking about, not just creationists), so saying that I whole heartedly agree with it would be closing my mind to other options, which imo is never a good idea in the field of science unless it's something concrete like gravity. Nonetheless I'm pretty sure in it's validity. There's too much evidence in support of it, just look at the giraffe example, they didn't start out with those huge necks. They used to be a lot shorter, until eventually they ate most of the lower hanging leaves on trees which was their only food, and only the freaky longer necked giraffes could reach leaves from the high trees, while the shorter necked giraffes died out. A simple but perfect example.

Mind you, it's hard to argue against the headlining argument against evolution.

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Post by Hanky Panky on Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:21 pm

giraffes evolved longer necks because OTHER animals were eating the low-hanging leaves. so in order to survive, natural selection favored the giraffes that could reach higher-up leaves that weren't being eaten. if the giraffes were capable of eating the low-hanging leaves on trees, they would never have evolved the longer necks, because neck length wouldn't have mattered. basically natural selection found traits that favored giraffes finding a niche in the ecosystem.

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Re: General chat: Who needs mspaf anyway

Post by OverlordJ on Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:10 pm

tinning3 wrote:unless it's something concrete like gravity

I think I remember someone saying that scientists are more certain about the theory of evolution then they are about the theory of gravity.

Just pointing that out.

And yeah, I am very much in favour of both evolution and gravity.
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:12 pm

Well, we know how evolution works. We're still not entirely clear on how gravity works; about all we can say about it is that it does work.
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Post by tinning3 on Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:21 pm

Hanky Panky wrote:basically natural selection found traits that favored giraffes finding a niche in the ecosystem.

Isn't that evolution in a nutshell? Animals that have specific unique traits thrive in surroundings that their brethren don't and survive to breed, thus passing down the traits to future generations, thus evolving, like the longer necked giraffes thriving over the shorter necks.

OverlordJ wrote:I think I remember someone saying that scientists are more certain about the theory of evolution then they are about the theory of gravity.

Really? That's interesting, I'd have thought a downward acting force/ the pull of objects on other objects would be more solid a theory than evolution, something which only exists over a period of time and not observeable at any single moment.

On the other hand, a 'survival of the most well suited variation' theory is easier to defend than 'objects with a giant mass have thier own pull' theory. I'm interested in any arguments against gravity now actually, gonna google them.
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:23 pm

Gravity is easier to observe, but a true theory requires you to explain how and why the phenomenon you've observed happens. Nobody's questioning whether gravity really exists, but they are questioning what makes it happen in the first place.
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Post by Gelatino on Thu Feb 13, 2014 8:58 pm

can you really explain why anything happens in the first place
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Re: General chat: Who needs mspaf anyway

Post by Hanky Panky on Thu Feb 13, 2014 9:13 pm

Because I am.

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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Fri Feb 14, 2014 1:09 am

Little Mac confirmed playable for Smash 4. His Final Smash has him Hulking out, and he has some sort of meter above his damage that seems to power up his attacks somehow (I'm guessing knowledge of the Punch-Out games might explain it better).
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Re: General chat: Who needs mspaf anyway

Post by d_what on Sat Feb 15, 2014 10:20 am

Giveaway time yo

So, I'm breeding for a perfect (6) relaxed (+def -speed) Tangrowth; Assault Vest, Giga Drain/EQ/Knock Off/Rock Slide (for Talonflame), and I'm pretty sure I nearly have it, but one of the spitbacks was a 31/31/31/31/31/x female Relaxed Regenerator Tangela which happens to have Hidden Power Ice. Which is actually one of Tangrowth's main sets, even coming before Rock Slide. I don't need it. Slap some moves and EVs (and levelling, and evolution, and an assault vest...) on it and it's ready to go. Anybody interested? Don't know what the speed IV is but at base 50 with no EVs and a negative nature it's not going to matter much. The set's below.
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Assualt Vest Pivot

252 HP, 252 SpDef, 4 SpAtk
Item: Assault Vest
Ability: Regenerator
Nature: Relaxed (+Def -Spe)

- Giga Drain / Leaf Storm
- Knock Off
- Earthquake
- Hidden Power Fire / Hidden Power Ice / Rock Slide 

Assault Vest is an interesting new item that boosts the wearer's SpDef by 50%, but only allows it to use attacking moves. Normally, lack of passive recovery would be a massive problem for a tank, but luckily for tangrowth, regenerator can be all it needs. Assault Vest with the maxed EVs and nature allow Tangrowth to hit 298 SpDef, which essentially gives it fully invested base 100 SpDef. This may not sound like a ton, but Tangrowth has a lot of health to tank those hits with, and still has 314 Def with 0 investment and a positive nature. However, this set does not play like a wall, but instead plays like a hit and run attacker. You switch in tangrowth, tank the hit, and pick whatever you think will be super effective against the switch, and switch out as you recover health. This set is not meant to take repeated hits, but instead uses tangrowth's decent attacking stats and regenerator to try and chip away at your opponent's health without losing any yourself. Most opponents won't expect this set, so capitalizing on the first few opportunities is paramount.

Earthquake is Tangrowth's most powerful physical move and takes care of many important Pokemon, some of which Tangrowth is suppsoed to counter and some of which like to switch into it, such as Excadrill, Heatran, Mega Char X, Lucario, and Aegislash. On the last slot, all three moves are viable choices, although it can be detrimental having three physical moves on Tangrowth, as it oftens ends up getting burnt by water-types. Hidden Power Ice covers Garchomp, Zygarde, Landorus-T, Landorus, Dragonite, and Gliscor, all Pokemon that Tangrowth can check or wall, while Hidden Power Fire covers Ferrothorn, Scizor, Genesect, Forretress, Skarmory, and both Hidden Power 2HKO Breloom. Lastly, Rock Slide takes care of Volcarona, Talonflame, Thundurus, Thundurus-T, regular Gyarados, regular Charizard and Mega Charizard Y, and deals respectable damage to Togekiss.

It's got very positive responses so far, and looks like a lot of fun if you're bored of MVenusaur/Gourgeist/Trevenant. Unrelated, the Tangela is a mostly direct descendant of the Bulbasaur Air gave me.

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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:23 pm

Hmm. Sounds like a bit of fun. I'll bite, but I can't be online for the next few hours, I've got fencing. I can be on at like one-ish EST. So for ireland i believe that's six, but don't quote me on that.

E: yeah that's six
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Post by NinteNerd on Sat Feb 15, 2014 1:06 pm

if you have others with 3+ perfect IV's, i'll take a male for breeding fodder. :u
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