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Post by invisibleTerrarium Tue Feb 11, 2014 2:41 pm

I horded my shiny Bellsprout and Spinda.
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Post by d_what Tue Feb 11, 2014 4:26 pm

And then you hoarded them afterwards?


Edit: hey guys two things, okay three things:

Firstly does anybody have a Ditto or Magnemite with a 30 (highly curious) in Sp.Atk? I like Magnezone and I could nearly breed one if I only had that extra 30. Turns out I already have a Magnezone and a Ditto BOTH with flawless IVs (from gen4/5 GTS, evidently passed bank) which are actually useless to me in this instance. And I'm pretty sure I have a traded 'mite with 30 speed.

Secondly, apparently Omastar is useful enough competitively this gen to warrant an early XY analysis. Cool beans, should anybody have an Omastar that totally fits the set description including Hidden Power type. Just sayin'. 
http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/omastar-qc-3-3-gp-0-2.3495169/


And finally: OMG OMG gimmick set alert http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/kingdra-qc-2-3.3498212/ NEW CRIT MECHANICS MAKE SNIPER COOL

SNIPER KINGDRA
+
FOCUS ENERGY and FOCUS LENS
=
100% CRIT CHANCE
And 2.25×damage output for a single turn of setup!
That's like Swords Dance/Nasty plot but stronger!
AND cuts through defense boosts!
But that's not the best part!
Draco Meteor's sp.atk drops are ignored for crits!!
Spam DMs!!!!
(Kingdra may still be terrible though)
(Fairies and steel types and faster dragons will still poop on it)
(But I love useful, niche gimmick sets that aren't unduly hax based - so yes to flinchHax Jirachi but no to SwagKey)
(That is all)


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Post by Dregadude Tue Feb 11, 2014 5:50 pm

Omfg there is a Spinda horde? I am so excite.
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Post by Hanky Panky Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:36 pm

I'm pretty sure raccoons are marsupials. Wait no that's 'possums. Nevermind, carry on.
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Post by phantasmalDexterity Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:37 pm

i sneezed
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Post by Hanky Panky Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:39 pm

get the fuck out
this is pokemon game discussion
not bodily function discussion
or pokemon game disgusting
you filthy aminmal
what the fuck am i even saying anymore
this forum is never on topic
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Post by phantasmalDexterity Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:43 pm

the strangest part is that i was actually on topic as in i was replying to an earlier post.
here's a mystery for you
who was i talking to?
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Post by Hanky Panky Tue Feb 11, 2014 8:56 pm

this mystery doesn't interest me enough to bother to find out the answer
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Post by NinteNerd Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:14 pm

d_what wrote:
And finally: OMG OMG gimmick set alert http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/kingdra-qc-2-3.3498212/ NEW CRIT MECHANICS MAKE SNIPER COOL
SNIPER KINGDRA+FOCUS ENERGY+FOCUS LENS=100% CRIT CHANCE
-snip-
Draco Meteor's sp.atk drops are ignored for crits!!
say WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!
has that always been a thing!?
is it a thing for leaf storm and other similar moves?!?

where can i read about these new crit mechanics? :u i'd only known they had a power drop...
also stfu kingda is a good pokemon. it certainly fails me less often than many of my others.
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Post by kotakun Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:31 pm

phantasmalDexterity wrote:the strangest part is that i was actually on topic as in i was replying to an earlier post.
here's a mystery for you
who was i talking to?
you made that post in response to hanky panky
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Post by phantasmalDexterity Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:34 pm

my heart is broken
kotakun wrote:you made that post in response to hanky panky
which post

i really should get back into the game so i can finally honor the battle promises i made
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Post by cephalopodAscendant Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:45 pm

NinteNerd wrote:
d_what wrote:
And finally: OMG OMG gimmick set alert http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/kingdra-qc-2-3.3498212/ NEW CRIT MECHANICS MAKE SNIPER COOL
SNIPER KINGDRA+FOCUS ENERGY+FOCUS LENS=100% CRIT CHANCE
-snip-
Draco Meteor's sp.atk drops are ignored for crits!!
say WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT?!?!
has that always been a thing!?
is it a thing for leaf storm and other similar moves?!?

where can i read about these new crit mechanics? :u i'd only known they had a power drop...
also stfu kingda is a good pokemon. it certainly fails me less often than many of my others.

Yo. According to Bulbapedia, critical hits have ignored detrimental stat stages since Gen II (technically Gen II worked slightly differently, but there was the same intent behind it).
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Post by Hanky Panky Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:59 pm

guess who just hatched a shiny scyther
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I need a good name for her. Any suggestions?
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Post by cephalopodAscendant Tue Feb 11, 2014 10:03 pm

Okay, what female characters do we know who are stabby?

EDIT: Okay, I've got a couple ideas, all related to Scandal. How about Becky or Kate? Also, if you watch Scandal and are all caught up, I have an even better suggestion.
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Post by invisibleTerrarium Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:42 pm

Terezi.
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Post by Hanky Panky Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:46 pm

what the fuck is scandal
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Post by cephalopodAscendant Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:48 pm

An amazing TV show. Just... just go watch it.
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Post by OverlordJ Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:05 am

So, someone want to help me understand the mystery that is poke bank?
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Post by cephalopodAscendant Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:06 am

What do you want to know? We can move to the chatbox if that'll be easier.
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Post by d_what Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:24 am

Ninten yeah it's always been a thing that crits only ever count the positive boosts and not the negatives, so defense increases and attack drops or discounted. The new mechanics are that critical hits are now more likely to happen but weaker. So before Focus Energy + Crit Item wouldn't guarantee a crit but now it does, except it only does 1.5 * damage. Sniper's been nerfed to 2.25 instead of 3 but makes it worthwhile now that it's easier to do.

Here's a tissue pD. Careful, I just used it as a napkin over lunch. I was eating... Nah you probably know already. *waves tissue*
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Post by Xaber Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:26 am

I actually bred and trained that Kingdra as my Secret Santa for pD.
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Post by d_what Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:56 am

Wait seriously?? Wow that is...an odd coincidence for sneasons. I mean reasons.

How'd it go?
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Post by tinning3 Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:28 am

Pokebank is a lot more wierd than I thought at first. I was expecting a 'transfer whatever you want in poke transfer, then put them into your gen 6 game via pokebank'. Instead, it's a 'have Gen V game in slot, transfer box 1, change game card to gen 6, insert pokemon via pokemon bank making sure you don't arbitrarily lose connection because then any changes you make are undone, change game card again, play that card to set the box 1 pokemon as you wish, go back to poketransfer, repeat.'

It still works, and I got used to it, but feels like it works in a more 'held together by stickytape and paperclips' way. I just don't understand why 'just' box 1, I'm going to need to research any limitations.
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Post by phantasmalDexterity Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:32 am

take that fricking tissue away from me
you horrible person

nameless dude is pretty cool
i just haven't really put an actual team for him together
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Post by d_what Wed Feb 12, 2014 9:04 am

Okay
So I lucked out and nabbed a Magnemite with 31/x/31/30/31/31 from the GTS, great, fantastic. Except then I realised there's no possible way to combine any of my magnemite's stats together since they only breed with Ditto. So yeah. Nothing doing. My request, then, is as follows: does anybody have a DITTO with 30 in sp.atk OR speed (preferably speed)? Any ditto that has a characteristic that applies to anything below 30 automatically will not have a 30. Best chances are "highly curious" and "likes to run", and obviously any ditto with a 31 there can't have a 30 also. Blehhhh genderless hidden power breeding >Sad
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