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Post by d_what on Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:37 pm

Yeah I dunno if you're just not there yet iT but some of that stuff has actually been covered Surprised there has been more than 1 denizen on screen. Green dude, yaldy dude and some doodly blue dudette have all been featured, I might be forgetting some. Pretty sure heph and nyx and hemera and cetus haven't though which is a shame because I really want to know what their bodies are like.

I figured it was implied Kurloz stole Vriska's pirate jacket to use in alchemy to make the Cairo Overcoat.

We know slightly more about the homestuck juju than that, exactly from the claymation vines. With how does English actually become English, I think it was just a gradual amalgamation of all the souls in Cal. Older Caliborn + Cal + Arquius's swoleness and the worst half of gamzee. Sums it up pretty well IMO.

Jake has had some exposition on Hope. Nothing very concrete but nothing that doesn't slightly imply it's the platonic super-powerised ideal behind things like "power of friendship" and Plot Armor in weapon form.

E: wow gela you are pimping this in all of my favourite colours!

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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:39 pm

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Post by d_what on Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:42 pm

Lol excellent iT. Totally bestowing title of Royal .giffer upon thee.

Which reminds me, we know how Doc was formed (cueballs + cal + guardian formula) but not what his deal with. At what point does Caliborn get THE BEST guardian? Presumably part of Yaldabaoth's victory boon. But it'd be nice to know because DAMN that shiny asshole has still not got his comeuppance and he won all the victories that he set out to achieve.

Seriously great villain though. Gotta love the Doc.

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Post by Spark Eletran on Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:23 pm

cracks knuckles

let's do this

SO first of all i am doing A Thing. everybody place your bets on the name for EOA6! whoever wins gets a doodle idk

so far I've had [S] Engage (my own submission :0), [S] Strife, [S] Adventure and [S] Eternity

main reasoning for engage is that it's a fancy way of saying fight just like cascade is a fancy way of saying things falling into place

BUT. ALRIGHT. PREDICTION TIME

we have six different fights set to happen and it's

honestly obvious that none of em are going to go as expected tbh

first of all, the most obvious - Lord English and the ghost army

there's no way a buncha pikmin can beat the omnipotent demon. vriska has a plan, sure, but that plan is SO much more likely to blow up in her face than anything else. LE ain't losing yet, that might be saved for another part of the flash and/or act 7 tbh

SECOND: Caliborn and Yogurtboner

well... to put it simply: we wouldn't be seeing this if things were to go as expected. as it kindly pointed out we still don't know fully how Lord English happened, just that Caliborn got a boon from his denizen and his soul merged with Gamzee and Arquius

buuut something still unexplained is very much the masterpiece (his reactions make very little sense since he saw everything from a screen beforehand) and overall retcon differences (stuff like talking about erisolsprite or apparently not recognizing arquius in the masterpiece)

so yeah, leading theory: this caliborn, thru Shenanigans, isn't actually lord english. there was some sort o split on the caliborns' timelines and tho our good lil friend will definitely be relevant he might not be the specific one who rises up

THIRD: Striderzis and the Jack-Off

this one's kind of nebulous buuuut it's pretty clear lord jack's gonna get that staff. i mean. c'mon. other than that? i dunno, tbh. SS was brought back for SOME reason, and Lord Jack still's gotta end up doing something of significance unless he's just there for rule of cool... so that'll be fun

FOURTH: Batterwitch and Co.

alright, let's be plain and simple - ain't happening. or, more accurately, it's totally happening - )(IC is most definitely dying in this next flash, imo. problem is... anyone remember she's kind of cursed by LE? and whoever kills her gets that curse too? yea that didn't stop being a thing

which leads to the obvious solution, ofc - jane ends up being somehow the one to get the kill thru Shenanigans. seems pretty well set-up at this point rly

FIFTH: Dogfight

well, this one's the one with the most chance to go well, actually! note i say well and not 'as expected' :0

i mean, there's no way the becs are killing jade. none. her biggest worry would be getting grimdark'd again but i feel that won't happen a second time because storytelling.

ofc, unexpected-wise... well the sun is prooobs going to die in the middle of the fight, not letting it actually end, but simply causing a stalemate of sorts. jack and/or pm might also lose their rings, not sure?? and ofc - it'd be the COOLEST THING if their teleport-y powers were used as a way to sneak a peek on all the other fights, bec and uranium imp style

AND FINALLY, SIXTH: Jake and the Felt

i

i have no fucking clue man

this seems so inconsequential like. IT'S THE FELT. terezi could probs kill em all and she's not even god tier. SOMETHING is going to happen here, i just... i don't know what. it might be lord english-related, that's a definite possibility


oh yeah, and the other related thing: THE GREEN SUN

like cmon guys calliope was not subtle, it's dying mspa

the real question here is WHAT causes the green sun to die

ofc, the most obvious answer would be muse!calliope since she was the one who implied it but...

cherubs' whole thing is that they absorb a dying star. they don't kill stars per say, they simply eat them as they end

also where would she even get the power to kill the green sun in the first place

the much more likely possibility (thanks bkew) would be that, well... vriska uses the juju, and it somehow leads into the destruction of the green sun. the juju is possibly the only real object we don't know the full extent of the abilities of, so being able to somehow cause its death is very much possible

and ofc, if that happens, muse!callie will absolutely eat the dying remains of it and go searching for LE because cherubs
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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:28 pm

the jack-off

why do we always come back to dicks???

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Post by d_what on Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:34 pm

S ascend? Or just act 6. Cascade was a great name.

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Post by Hanky Panky on Tue Apr 05, 2016 7:36 pm

can somebody pm me a big tl;dr of everything that happened after doglady turned evil?

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Post by Spark Eletran on Tue Apr 05, 2016 8:34 pm

I think Ascend will be saved for Act 7 personally

and. I could probs try

I could see defs Agress tho

EDIT: I DID IT I SENT THE THING

that was HUGE holy shit but i did my best

nearly all of it was from memory btw
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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:02 pm

would you volunteer to post that here i would love to see homestuck recapped in sparks mostly lowercase much abbreviated style lmao

(obligatory hopy shit that recape is HUUUUGE joke)
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Post by Spark Eletran on Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:05 pm

i actually didn't use my usual style much but

here u have it

i'm warning you it big:
ok so, Condesce turned Jade and Jane into her lil minions right

John was asleep in the Prospitian Battleship, met with the ghost crew (Vriska Sollux Aradia Nepeta Feferi Meenah Aranea) in their final step for the ULTIMATE TREASURE

Cherub exposition (they eat dying stars and turn into galactic-sized snakes for hatesex), they find the treasure and it's a house-shaped hole in the comic, John sticks his arm in there and it's retconned into various points of the comic

He disappears, retcons around the comic, comes back to LOMAX (Jake's land) and Dave, Rose, Terezi, Karkat and Kanaya are teleported in there suddenly while he was bored

Caliborn takes over the story, draws badly, we timeskip into the session while John's gone. Dave doesn't want to time travel, Jane can ressurect people, )(IC wants to beat Sburb and dominate the new universe with a new troll race. Jade captured B2 Earth with her powers, it's tiny now. Roxy and Jake are captive, Dirk's out in the furthest ring and speeding closer, along with Bec Noir and PM, as well as Lord Jack.

John finds out he can beat glitches with his windy powers, talks to Roxy, decides to get the ring for Calliope. Cue balls are apparently a weakness of LE's.

John finds out the ring's gone, teleports into Caliborn's shitty stolen art story, gets mad when he tries to make incest happen and kills bogus!Roxy

Aranea mindcontrolled Gamzee to steal the ring, comes back to life with it, wants to fuck everything up and heal this timeline into Alpha status using her powers, thus retroactively getting rid of Lord English. Heals Jake into getting OP hope powers, Jade brings em from Prospit to LOFAF (her land), Roxy also escapes her cell using voidy powers and yeah. oh also )(IC wants Roxy to create a new matriorb with rogue of void powers, stealing the void of the idea of a matriorb to poof it into reality

Aranea-powered Jake beats Jade's green sun powers, knocking her out, Aranea drops her house on her and she dies (justly). Everybody shows up to the party - Karkat and Kanaya were already there, Terezi flies in with a blindfold to fuck Gamzee up, Dave comes in and finds out Jade's dead (and Jane's trying to revive her, and the Becs are fucking both of em up and steal Jade's body), Rose's called in by Dave and Roxy falls asleep thanks to Aranea iirc

Vriska gives up on her ghost army plans, becomes bffs with Meenah. Jane kills Jake temporarily. Gamzee flips out while Terezi wails on him and DESTROYS her, Karkat and Kanaya are mad and want to beat him up, Rose is confused, Dave is chasing the Becs for Jade, and Aranea is trying to fuck with Jane to stop her from reviving people. Suddenly, the Condesce appears in her ship! Also meanwhile Jade's in the dream bubbles with dead Calliope

Caliborn's learned how to anime. John pops in, realizes what's going on, tries to beat him up. for the next part... [link to game over bc come on]



John pops in afterwards, sees every planet but his and Roxy's fucked up, everybody dead, Dirk's given up on life, Roxy's carried Rose out to her planet and John follows. Rose dies heroically after a little chat, Roxy and John are giving up, Terezi falls in half-dead with her jetpack. Tells John to fix this using his powers, sends him and Roxy off to talk with their denizens

Typheus makes John learn to control his retcon powers by nearly drowning him in oil, he comes back to Terezi using a codeword they set back in LOPAN (there's no place like home) as a mind beacon basically

Terezi writes shit in her scarf-blindfold with blood, gives John chalk and dies. Tells him to use those words to change things in their past and do what she tells him to.

He goes back and gets the Ring, preventing Aranea's influence, and then returns to various points in Hivebent - the ones worth noting would be that he tells Terezi "YOU DON'T NEED HIM" (referring to karkat. or dave. who knows), that he opens her eyes to Gamzee (which leads to her tying him up) and that he knocks Vriska tf out before she can die with a punch of pure mangrit

Meanwhile, Jade tells a story as Jane walks in on her and Calliope as well - they're both actually not the ones that died! instead, they seem to be from a new timeline John's creating, a retconned existence. One where LOWAS (john's land) suddenly exploded in the ship, killing him and Davesprite, and where a group lead by Vriska raided Derse, leading to Roxy's death. John returns to his planet, Roxy accompanying him thanks to her denizen's guidance, and they retcon into the new timeline

Caliborn tells us of what he's seen in a screen - his future, after beating Yaldabaoth. All the kids retcon in with John's powers, but the four originals are sucked into the house juju's windows. The alphas fight Caliborn and almost lose until Jake's hope powers distract him enough, letting Dirk use his soul powers to steal Caliborn's soul after Arquius comes from nowhere and distracts him. In the process, Arquius's and Gamzee's souls are absorbed as well, all of them stored into Lil Cal, which Roxy banishes to the void. The Lil Cal in the B1 and A2 timelines has had the mix of those three (four?) souls in it all along - the souls that compose Lord English. The B2 one was copied, but its content was not, leading to the empty Cal those souls are stored into in the first place - a stable, branched loop.

Everybody finally united, preparations for the final battle are afoot. John and Roxy reunite with the others - Rose isn't drunk thanks to Vriska's influence, Terezi is much healthier and still blind, Dave and Karkat grew closer and seem to be dating in 'secret.' Tavrosprite is now Jane's sprite, Arquius still was created, we have two more vacant sprites.

Vriska divides them into groups - Tavros and Jake take care of Spades Slick, who's heading to the session with the Felt as backup. John, Rose, Kanaya and Roxy will fight the Condesce in Derse. Dave, Dirk and Terezi head to Lord Jack to have their hand at him. Kanaya and Karkat also head to Jade's denizen, Echidna, to talk to her and get their new universe.

Vriska, meanwhile, goes and steals Meenah from her pre-retcon ghost, getting her to join the reformed ghost army.

Also Jaspersprite (who came in LOWAS when it was teleported) prototypes the corpse of pre-retcon Rose with Roxy's sprite, leading to Rosesprite. and then nuzzles her and creates Jasprosesprite². Jasprose will use her weird teleport-y fourth wall windows to offer their healer, Jane, quick travel between the battles - Jane's currently getting the Crocker tiara hacked out of her. Jade, meanwhile, is asleep, and should stay so until the end of the battle because of the Condesce.

Calliope, Jade and Jane meet an alternate Calliope that dominated over Caliborn, god tiering and dying at the hands of her denizen. Jane disappears. Roxy pops into the dream as Jade leaves with the new Calliope at her request, and gives our Calliope the ring of life, reviving her. They go back and Roxy creates a new matriorb with Calliope's help.

Kanaya and Karkat are trusted by Echidna, but Karkat must be the one to lead the new universe and thus must be protected during the battle. Kanaya knocks him out to prevent him from being reckless.

Jasprose is having a date with her own personally made crush - Nepetasprite, using Jake's kernel. Pre-retcon Davesprite, who came on LOWAS, comes in and hi-fives her, leading to Davepetasprite². Davepeta has an awesome hug with Arquius, who is deploying grist caches to lead to the end of the game, and heads off to go fight Lord English.

Terezi has a moment of unknown relevance, seemingly seeing the fates of various characters' deaths, including her pre-retcon self - she feels like something's missing to her.

SS drops the Felt in on LOMAX, and Jake gets ready to fight them.

)(IC arrives on Derse, where John, Rose, Roxy, Kanaya and Jane await her.

Karkat wakes up in the dream bubbles, joining the ghost army against Lord English.

Jade and Muse!Calliope reach the Green Sun, and Calliope drifts closer towards it to do what she must, leaving Jade by herself.

Davepeta meets with Jade, telling her about the importance of all selves - all showing the possibilities of who you could be within other circumstances. Together, they form your ultimate self - the person you truly are, the core of your being. They kiss her as a farewell and stab her dream projection, waking her up preemptively.

Jade meets Callie and WV, on LOFAF, and teleports to Dave - she won't be staying asleep any longer. She teleports away as Lord Jack and Spades Slick approach, ready to fight each other.

Lord English arrives at the dream bubbles the ghost army sits at, ready to decimate them.

Caliborn ominously walks to his Denizen, ready to engage.

Jack Noir and PM begin fighting on the destroyed wrecks of Prospit with overwhelming amounts of Green Sun energy.

The battle is about to go down, finally.
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Post by Hanky Panky on Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:14 pm

holy fuck

i am so glad i read the tldr instead of going through the comic

thanks spark

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Post by Sandstriker on Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:36 pm

wait theres a curse for killing )(IC?
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Post by Spark Eletran on Tue Apr 05, 2016 9:49 pm

yeah the Handmaid's

conditional mortality or smth. you live forever, until lord english thinks it's your time to die

handmaid was cursed with that by LE, condesce killed her and inherited the curse, presumably whoever kills her will be cursed again
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Post by Sandstriker on Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:00 pm

oh, rad. doesnt sound like the worst curse in the world

EDIT: Though now that i say this i really hope john doesnt kill her now bc then everything is rekt
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Post by Spark Eletran on Tue Apr 05, 2016 10:05 pm

well I mean you're also forced to do his bidding so it's pretty bad

and yeah that's why I'm saying Jane killing her would make te most sense, inheriting the curse and all. we'll see I suppose :0
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Post by Spark Eletran on Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:25 pm

ITS COMING
ITS UCKING COMING PAPERS CONFIRMED IT
PAPERSEVERYWHERE ASKED HUSSIE AND IT'S PROLLY GONNA BE MIDNIGHT~ONE AM EST
TWO HOURS
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Post by muffinz on Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:38 pm

AHHH

actually i probably won't be able to watch it until tomorrow morning anyways because site traffic, so.

but still AHHH
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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Tue Apr 05, 2016 11:58 pm

t minus one hour. still rereading. almost there. currently reading the part where everyone's shooting the shit on the frog platform. the hype is on, folks.
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Post by muffinz on Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:05 am

IT'S UP! THE FLASH IS UP GO LOOK OH MY GOD

EDIT: I HAVEN'T CLICKED IT YET SO IDK IF IT CAN BE VIEWED TONIGHT BUT IT'S HERE!!!
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Post by invisibleTerrarium on Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:06 am

[S] Collide. i'm physically restraining myself from clicking it before i finish my reread, no spoils please. this is gomna be tough.
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Post by muffinz on Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:10 am

wait SHIT

my mom's gonna get home in the next 15 minutes or so probably and when she does I'm gonna be morally obligated to at least say "hi" and make small talk with her about her day, which would interrupt the flash, so...
i think i'll have to WAIT until after she gets home and goes to bed before i click it.
keeping myself from starting it now is physically painful.
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Post by muffinz on Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:23 am

OK GLAD I WAITED she came home less than five minutes after posting that. TIME TO GO WATCH THE FLASHHHHH

EDIT:
no spoiler for the flash's events:
it's a youtube video??? EIGHTEEN MINUTES??? ohhh boy here we fuckin' gooooo
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Post by Spark Eletran on Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:33 am

OH MY GOD IM SCREAMING
UPLOADING MY REACTION RIGHT NOW BUT WHAT THE FUCK
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Post by cephalopodAscendant on Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:46 am

Well, looks like Hussie learned from his mistakes and hosted this one on a site that's got the infrastructure to handle the traffic. Eighteen minutes of insane combat.

Minor spoilers:
I did appreciate the Undertale reference.
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Post by muffinz on Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:20 am

WOW! OKAY

Spoiler:
initial thoughts aside from incoherent exited screaming: I don't 100% understand what happens after that absurd fucking TRIPLE BEHEADING. Like okay everyone gets time-traveled out of the way before the big explosion destroys everything, but then the image grays out and fades away, so... does that signify that they went to a different timeline? Has LOTAK been Officially Destroyed or is it still intact in the Alpha timeline???

And what the heck the fuck does that ending mean!? like oh my god that was so ominous. Nothing even HAPPENED after the part where everyone won, but Nothing Happening just made me even more terrified because of that music shift and the static. HAVE we won? Or is something incredibly shitty about to happen to everyone? What an unsettling note to leave on.

EDIT: also i just realized the LE fight was NOT in fact concluded in this flash, meaning there is most likely still more Battling and stuff to go before the end even if this was "the final battle of Homestuck"
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